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Is sex political? Do you need to vote according to your sexuality?

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The short answer is YES, sex IS political.

Newsflash, there are people in the world and here in America too that would seek to harm us and discriminate against us based solely on our sexual orientation.


It is political because issues of sexuality are currently on the legislative table across the nation that relate to our particular proclivities. If you think that because same-sex marriage only deals with gays and lesbians, that bisexuals are safely tucked into the shadows,you'd be wrong. Certain political parties, and I am not going to name which ones but we all know, judge anyone of alternative sexuality as amoral and are willing to make legislation that is discriminatory against those groups. Being that we are the B in the LGBT community, we are lumped in with the rest of the queer community and are seen a just as much a part of the problem as the rest of those groups. If you think we at some point won't be the direct object of that morality legislative agenda you'd be wrong. So far, 17 states have had constitutional amendments brought to the floor of their statehouses for the purpose of making same-sex marriage illegal forever. 17 times it has been struck down by state supreme courts as unconstitutional. Had this agenda been successful though, it inevitably would have turned it's attention to US. We have to be good neighbors in the LGBTQ community and support the rights of others. If we don't do that, and winning equality rights isn't a priority for us bisexuals, when the angst of the "moral majority" turns our way, we will have few allies to draw upon. Who knows what kind of dark and ominous legislative nightmare might be lurking in the minds of those who would seek to judge us and back up that judgement with laws making that judgement institutionalized. We have to be allies to to the gay and lesbian communities right now because they are I the fight of their lives.

Here recently in Indiana a lesbian couple was married when the Indiana State Supreme Court overturned Indiana's ban on same-sex marriage. Within 24 hours the states attorney filed a stay attempting to halt same-sex marriage until the US Supreme Court rules on the matter. This particular marriage was significant because the lesbian couple involved was on a time crunch, one of the two women involved was terminally ill and may not survive without the insurance benefits granted by their marriage. This question was tenuous and was truly a matter of life and death. A ruling as to whether their marriage would be exempted from the stay has yet to be handed down, all the time the clock is ticking. If they will go to such lengths in a matter of life and death, it's a safe assumption they will go to ANY lengths to further this agenda.

Being bisexual has become just as political as being any other of the alternative sexualities in the LGBTQ spectrum. People's rights are at stake and those stakes are high. The future of our own rights may depend on the alliances we form now. We have to be a community united and not just within our own community, but the larger LGBTQ community. Being a good ally gives us more resources and experience to draw on in the struggle for equality rights. We may yet have our own battles to wage, when that day comes whether we are standing alone will be determined by what we are doing now.

Being bisexual HAS to change your politics, because if you ally yourself with those that would oppress your sexuality, you are denying yourself the right of self determination. Many still do this and vote against their own interest, they do it for all manner of justifications. They deny themselves when they do so because they think other reasons are more important than their own interests. That thinking has to stop, once you accept who you are wholly and really look at what your own political interests are those xenophobic and bigoted people who would discriminate against us are clearly doing so with ill-intent. Their hateful agenda does extend to all people who are different from them,left unchecked it is only a matter of time before we become the object of their hate. As long as being bisexual changes how we are view in society, it will remain a political issue.

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  1. tenni's Avatar
    [FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2] Hi [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2]I live in a country where same sex marriage is legal due to our constitution’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms for nearly ten years now. Same sex marriage is not just for gays and lesbians. A bisexual may enter a marriage with another same sex bisexual or a gay person. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2]Equality rights beyond same sex marriage have not yet come forward from bisexuals. Bisexuals are a very un organized group and therefore have little political clout or unity. I believe that relationships for bisexuals need to be inclusive to triads even if a bisexual choses not to enter a triad relationship. The bisexual may be happy with a less formal arrangement (friends with benefits, fuck buddy or ?) Are there any legal issues that might endanger such unions? I would think yes as marriage remains a duo couple scenario even in my country. Are there incidents where bisexuals are discriminated against such as housing , jobs etc.? We do not know as [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2]there is little data on bisexuals. We do know that bisexuals have the highest rate of depression and thoughts of suicide with female bisexuals suffering more than male bisexuals and far more than gays. We do know that there has been discrimination of services in some GLBT organizations by considering that bisexual needs are the same as gays. This is not true and bisexual counselling etc. needs are overlooked. We know that there is little research on bisexuality as well compared to gays. We know that some studies on HIV [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2]transmission included gays and bisexuals as MSM which did not separate gay men from bisexual men. This created false data and accusations about HIV transmissions from bisexual men to hetero women. That too was found to be untrue. There are myths and misconceptions about bisexuals and we read some of them on this site.(sex is not a need argument by heteroseuxals and some bisexuals)[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2]I think much of what you write 2bi is based on a society that is ten years behind my own. Yet, he is correct that it is political pressure that will prevent slipping back to discrimination. It is at the core of any society…its constitution and equality right regardless of gender, race, religion, ablism, and more. Even with such things legally entrenched in a society laws can linger as the society’s people themselves evolve and accepting of differences and equality.[/SIZE][/FONT]
    Updated Aug 20, 2014 at 9:29 PM by tenni
  2. 2bi2Bboring's Avatar
    Tenni, I am not sure America is just 10 years behind, sometimes if feels more like 50 years. Some areas are better than others, but get outside the cities and it's like a time warp. We have to lead our community and join with our LGBTQ brothers and sisters. We are far stronger together than we could ever be apart.
  3. Nakedfun3's Avatar
    I agree with both of you. I'm also Canadian and found myself more encourage by a little more open society than the one in US. However, there is still a long distance to go, especially about bisexuality which is viewed sometimes as a threat for both extremes of the spectrum, the heterosexual and homosexual communities, both skeptical of our true sexuality saying that we are just closeted gays. I agree that at a social level we must join forces with the rest of the LGBT group and fight against the oppressive moral and legislative systems trying to suppress our rights. But at the same time, without excluding ourselves from this political activism I think it's important to establish the initial fundaments for understanding that in reality bisexuality is very common in it's multiple ways and scale of shades in preferences. Helping educate people about the taboos and socioeconomic presets which obscure their understanding is paramount for us to become finally recognized as another "normal" sexual behaviour. I mean not only in the political scenario, but in the psychological and biological treatment of sexuality in our specie. The fact that every sexual preference should stop being seen as a minority and rather just a part of a great rainbow where the colours intermix and people move back and forth according to the specifics of the moment. We should write articles, participate in debates against the fixation of sexual schemes and for the true freedom of sex outside of any supposed normative. I do believe that the vast majority of human beings are intrinsically bisexuals or pansexuals and that only the social taboos keep us fixed to one or another pole. First we must all fight, including the heterosexuals too, for the liberation of sex from the negative shroud thrown over by centuries of oppression, then accept the great spectrum of diversity in sexual preferences and the reality of a variable slide along that spectrum for the vast majority of people. Only then, we as sexual beings would become free of any social stigma.
  4. Gearbox's Avatar
    The Church is way way WAY more organised than any bi group, and way way WAY outnumber it's out & proud voting 'soldiers' too.

    If there's any chance of out-manipulating society the way religions do politically, there'd have to be the same level of organisation and communication between ALL LGBT & het friends. That would mean letting everybody know exactly what to do and when to do it. No point just moaning about it! The Church doesn't just moan. They go on the attack! They just ain't taking no 'Devil shit'!
    They congregate, inform, protest, recruit outsiders, they form alliances and they do God's work with a fekin PASSION!:yikes2:

    Who is going to start getting organised and clean up America?
    (*Great plot for a film there I reckon btw*:tongue:)
  5. void()'s Avatar
    We need anarchy, plain and simple.
  6. 2bi2Bboring's Avatar
    A little bit of revolution is a dangerous thing, void().
  7. WebothBbi's Avatar
    Just look at Missouri...protesting gone awry
  8. void()'s Avatar
    [QUOTE=2bi2Bboring;bt5970]A little bit of revolution is a dangerous thing, void().[/QUOTE]

    But evolving is not. Our current State, is a near perfect example of anarchy working in near perfection as it is. People make non-existing contracts in "donating" funding to political candidates. The candidates offer to "consider" doing favors for these "donors", but only if the "contracts" remain behind closed doors. We all still know it goes on.

    Do the candidates ever truly do anything for the donors? Sometimes, but only enough so to offer "teasers", "string" the donors along. "Get me elected next term, I'll keep "working" for you." May as well do politicos like Nascar cars, paint them with sponsor decals. At least we'd know really who were the bosses. Sure isn't us, the people they claim to represent.

    So let's evolve to peaceful autonomy, use voluntarism with a healthy dose of believing in mutuality as our base model. Fairly sure we can do it too, and without money to boot. Barter labor, goods at equitable value. That's all money is at any given, what a seller and buyer agree to accept as equitable. "I'll trade you three sheep for a new carb installed and functioning in my car." "Done deal, I know a butcher who can turn two back to me for the cost of one."

    Just some thinking, a bit aloud maybe but thinking none the less.

    Guess it relates to sex because if a lot of political pressures were gone, a person could better relax, enjoy sex. Never thought much of conflating the two subjects. Probably weirdo here. *shrugs*
    Updated Aug 22, 2014 at 10:06 PM by void()
  9. Alex2200's Avatar
    wow everyone with comment seems to have a lot to say i topic. i bit more simple on matter.
    have spoken out politically, but for me personally, sex is chemical, not political. Sex is personal. Reason for sex may be political, but the actual sex is not, it between lovers only.
  10. void()'s Avatar
    [QUOTE=Alex2200;bt5988]wow everyone with comment seems to have a lot to say i topic. i bit more simple on matter.
    have spoken out politically, but for me personally, sex is chemical, not political. Sex is personal. Reason for sex may be political, but the actual sex is not, it between lovers only.[/QUOTE]

    Don't think I actually said sex was political. Sex is sex, politics is politics.
  11. 2bi2Bboring's Avatar
    Sex is sex, and unless you're having sex in public for all to see, it is generally not open to public scrutiny. Sex has political connotations, and on many fronts. Abortion, contraception, disease control, same-sex marriage, women's rights, gay rights, are the most prevalent topics that come to mind. But once big brother eases his way into our bedrooms and subjects us to judgement at our most intimate level, then where does that leave our rights? We are viewed by those who see themselves as "normal" and us as "abnormal" with leering looks. They think we have some "gay agenda" and are here to recruit and seduce their children into joining our cause.
    "Everything in the world is about sex, except sex, sex is about power." -Oscar Wilde
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