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Thinking this isnt a Bisexual site anymore.
I know this will touch the nerves of some people. But someone has to ask ? RIGHT ?
For as long as I have been coming to this site , and my intentions were purely bi. I find that more and more Gay and lesbians come here than Bisexual.
Cant the Bi community have a site of their own? It seems that there are plenty of Gay sites and Lesbians sites out there. Am I wrong in my thinking, or is there no true bisexual site here?
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Isn't one always to lead by example?? How in the world are people to be accepted by people, if someone isn't showing them what acceptance is?
We can't beg to be accepted and included, if we deny who comes here.. >I don't hear you complain about the amount of straight people that are here.
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hydropop
I know this will touch the nerves of some people. But someone has to ask ? RIGHT ?
For as long as I have been coming to this site , and my intentions were purely bi. I find that more and more Gay and lesbians come here than Bisexual.
Cant the Bi community have a site of their own? It seems that there are plenty of Gay sites and Lesbians sites out there. Am I wrong in my thinking, or is there no true bisexual site here?
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i have been judged all of my life for being myself and believing in what i believe in. i may not be a superior activist but i believe if everyone being able to be themselves safely as long as no one is hurt and there is not something illegal going wrong. some people here are str8 to i hope you know that and some are here because they support us. yes some are here for just a piece of ass and that is it.
some gay and lesbian people sometimes are not accepeted by thier own "kind". some are curious as well. some may possibly think they may not be gay or lesbian but are unsure just yet. some are here to support us too.
i love the gay and lesbians that visit if thier intentions are not cruel.
but consider this...
no matter what sexuality you are here there or anywhere you can still be a fucktard.
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MissyMissy
no matter what sexuality you are here there or anywhere you can still be a fucktard.
Wow! A great statement of fact.
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I still am able to have what appear to be good bi conversations here and have found some good support.
I do agree however that there are a few people who really shouldn't be here.
I don't mean to offend but I know someone will take offense.
Here goes.....
If you are a man hater or a woman hater why are you here???
This should be a happy place for all. To be attacked or ignored just because you like dick AND pussy is stupid. I am always amazed when people in the main chat area get all bent outta shape when two guys start sex messaging in the main room. Yes, we could take it to pm mode but I for one like it when the ladies and gents encourage us and offer suggestions.
I know I'll get some flack for this but I'm pretty sure this is a bi-SEX-ual site.
As for the straights.... We're all voyeurs in some way aren't we?????
Feel free to throw rocks at me now....
Or kisses.....
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* shrugs *
There's no utopian site. Gotta take some of the bad with the good, there's not enough bad here to warrent me making a huge fuss and packing my bags and moving away. The good certiainly outweighs so I stick around. I do have a few folks on person ignore here, and we all get along great (since they don't know they are getting ignored!)
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Re: Thinking this isnt a Bisexual site anymore.
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Originally Posted by
hydropop
I know this will touch the nerves of some people. But someone has to ask ? RIGHT ?
For as long as I have been coming to this site , and my intentions were purely bi. I find that more and more Gay and lesbians come here than Bisexual.
Cant the Bi community have a site of their own? It seems that there are plenty of Gay sites and Lesbians sites out there. Am I wrong in my thinking, or is there no true bisexual site here?
I think that you may be missing the point a little here.
Allowing others here is paramount to showing that we are big enough to accept other sexualities here as well.
It does two things when we do it;
1. As was earlier pointed out, we lead on the path of acceptance by example.
2. We get the opportunity to help educate those who may be disinformed or know little or nothing about Bisexuals and Bisexuality.
So you should take all of those opportunities for us into account.
Yes, this is a Bisexual site, but not all bisexuals are looking only for other Bisexuals to meet, either. So there is that as well.
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MissyMissy
i have been judged all of my life for being myself and believing in what i believe in. i may not be a superior activist but i believe if everyone being able to be themselves safely as long as no one is hurt and there is not something illegal going wrong. some people here are str8 to i hope you know that and some are here because they support us. yes some are here for just a piece of ass and that is it.
some gay and lesbian people sometimes are not accepeted by thier own "kind". some are curious as well. some may possibly think they may not be gay or lesbian but are unsure just yet. some are here to support us too.
i love the gay and lesbians that visit if thier intentions are not cruel.
but consider this...
no matter what sexuality you are here there or anywhere you can still be a fucktard.
wow .... now im a fucktard , guess that clears that all up.
This was mearly a question and some how I knew it would ruffle someones feathers. Guess I should have tossed in the straight people too.
I for one never............ oh F it it wont matter what I recant with.
Maybe someone will delete this post. geezzzzzzzzzzzz
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First of all, she didnt mention that YOU were a Fucktard, she said a generalization as in Some People. She did not call you a Fucktard personally. And I dont see why it should bother you to have Lesbians Or Gay men in this group. I dont know of all that many Lesbian ladies that are on board with us, and it wouldnt matter to some of us if there Were more.
Most of us accept people for who they are, and as long as someone has a decent attitude in chat, or on the boards, I see no problem with them. I think its kind of discriminatory to say "Why cant we have something all to ourselves with out Them coming in" Thats just plain wrong in my book.
And for Strokin', I fail to have ever seen any derogatory remarks when 2 men flirted with each other in chat. Must have been at some point when "I" personally wasnt in there.
All I can say if..if ya'll dont like the site the way it is, then happy trails and I hope you find what you are looking for. But I can guarentee, you'll never find a bunch like us anywhere else. We that put people before labels.
Nuff said before I get ticked...
Cat
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[QUOTE But I can guarantee, you'll never find a bunch like us anywhere else. We that put people before labels.
Nuff said before I get ticked...
Cat[/QUOTE]
Well said Cat.
As many of you know I am the straight wife of a bi man. In the beginning when we joined this site I was apprehensive as to whether or not I would be accepted because I personally was not bi. Oh how very wrong I was. I was welcomed by two very lovely ladies....Kate and Arana, and welcomed in my role as a straight wife. I have learned so much here, from the most kind and generous people who grace this site. As a matter of fact one of the earliest " discussions" I was a participant in was on this very topic. I am still reminded on occasion on the tenacity of my argument that ALL are welcome regardless of their sexual identity.
I have learned to be understanding, tolerant, loving, giving, honest and open. Not only with those around me but most importantly with myself. To say that a certain "labeled" group does not belong here is absurd. ALL are welcome as long as they treat others with respect and dignity. Everyone is free to express themselves in an honest and forthright manner. One should also be able to understand the feelings of others as well.
For those who wish to discuss the issue of gays or lesbians having a right to be here in a private forum...please do not hesitate to contact me. I love a good joust, for I speak from the heart and am not afraid to stand behind my convictions.
Belle
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As one of the resident "straights" of this site, I will say that I don't think the sexual orientation of a person needs to be an issue here and perhaps hydro should have worded his comments a bit differently. In hydro's defense, I believe that some recent behavior in the chat room has caused him to feel this way. There are many that come to chat that feel they have to be "militant" in their sexuality and they refuse to bestow common courtesies to their fellow chatters. Yes this is a bisexual site, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a use for others of different orientations. That being said, because it IS a site of diverse orientations, simple rules of decorum should apply and if we treat each other with common courtesy, there should never be a reason that anyone shouldn't feel welcome.
I am very happy that I have been made to feel welcome here and many of us come here for various reasons, bisexual, gay, lesbian or straight. I do have issue, however, with the individuals who don't offer a simple hello to others in the chat room, quickly stating that they aren't here to talk to men, women, etc. I don't care what your sexual orientation is, it is never right to be rude, judgmental or out and out dismissive of others when in the chat room. If someone speaks to you that you don't care to speak to then so be it.....but please.....we're adults...there is never a need to be a man hater, a woman hater or anything but a people lover! Saying hello to others does not mean you want to fuck them, for God's sake! Just be polite and go about your business! No one cares what you want to do or who you want to do it with, but by all means just be a simple courteous person as you would be expected to be in a real life situation. Plain and simple.
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Once again,Well said Kate!!!!!!
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My personal opinion is you can learn alot from a gay or lesbian person.
If you are bi-curious then talking to someone who has experienced it with the same sex could be a good thing, no?
Also can't a gay/lesbian/ be bi curious too hydro?
Just looks like really that you are implying this site should be for Bi-Sexual people only which really means gay/lesbian/straight/bi-curious are not to be here.
But thats my opinion!
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in my opinion (and i don't wish to spark any riots :eek: ) many bisexual people have relationships/liaisons with str8, gay and lesbian people so its inevitable that all ends of the sexual spectrum come here to feel good and get and lend support to the community. So in the end its all about their attitude. When we had troll problems on here my issue was the attitude of those individuals not their sexuality and hydropop has the right to question any issue with the same openness offered to the rest of us. He may have a point based on his own experiences but as I haven't shared those I can't comment. For me this is still a cool place to visit and very rewarding for a person who identifies as bi. Freedom of speech is fine as long as its done responsibly.
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I am glad the site is inclusive, I enjoy talking to people who are DIFFERENT then myself because they may in fact, help me to learn something that I didn't ALREADY know.
As long as a person isn't making constant, slanderous personal attacks on others I am glad for the variety of opinion..of course it is a two-way street - I would hope that person would also be open and accepting of others as well.
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csrakate
As one of the resident "straights" of this site, I will say that I don't think the sexual orientation of a person needs to be an issue here and perhaps hydro should have worded his comments a bit differently. In hydro's defense, I believe that some recent behavior in the chat room has caused him to feel this way. There are many that come to chat that feel they have to be "militant" in their sexuality and they refuse to bestow common courtesies to their fellow chatters. Yes this is a bisexual site, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a use for others of different orientations. That being said, because it IS a site of diverse orientations, simple rules of decorum should apply and if we treat each other with common courtesy, there should never be a reason that anyone shouldn't feel welcome.
I am very happy that I have been made to feel welcome here and many of us come here for various reasons, bisexual, gay, lesbian or straight. I do have issue, however, with the individuals who don't offer a simple hello to others in the chat room, quickly stating that they aren't here to talk to men, women, etc. I don't care what your sexual orientation is, it is never right to be rude, judgmental or out and out dismissive of others when in the chat room. If someone speaks to you that you don't care to speak to then so be it.....but please.....we're adults...there is never a need to be a man hater, a woman hater or anything but a people lover! Saying hello to others does not mean you want to fuck them, for God's sake! Just be polite and go about your business! No one cares what you want to do or who you want to do it with, but by all means just be a simple courteous person as you would be expected to be in a real life situation. Plain and simple.
As Texy said Kate, WELL SAID.
Belle
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As a bisexual man seeking male partners, I don't care whether the man is bisexual or gay. Some gay men might prefer only other gay men (I really don't know). So, any gay man on this site should be interested in bisexual men, and I am interested in him. I suppose the same reasoning would apply to bisexual women and lesbians. What's the problem?
With regard to chat and forums, it's great to have input (bad pun, sorry) from as many different points (another bad pun) of view as possible. Again, what's the problem?
Let's cut out the name calling and recriminations. By the way, what's a fucktard?
Love to all,
Kermit
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As a bisexual man seeking male partners, I don't care whether the man is bisexual or gay. Some gay men might prefer only other gay men (I really don't know). So, any gay man on this site should be interested in bisexual men, and I am interested in him. I suppose the same reasoning would apply to bisexual women and lesbians. What's the problem?
With regard to chat and forums, it's great to have input (bad pun, sorry) from as many different points (another bad pun) of view as possible. Again, what's the problem?
Let's cut out the name calling and recriminations. By the way, what's a fucktard?
Love to all,
Kermit
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I am glad that more gays and lesbians come to this site-----that they either are accepting of bisexuality or are open to the idea that "bisexuality is real" and want to get to know us.
As far as I am concerned--anyone who wants to come here is welcome--as long as they are not some nutcase who makes up personalities to harrass people here----and that those who come here are generally respectful of the views of others and express their views in appropriate ways.
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I pretty much agree with what mrplay said. Lesbians will stickk to lesbians, gay men with stick with gay men...since when do bisexuals only stick with bisexuals. That's the point of bisexuality, because we are diverse with our attraction we might spark up a relationship with another bisexual, or a gay man, or a lesbian, or a straight man or woman. So why begrudge any of them being here?
Also, if they weren't welcome the option would not be there when you sign up to state whether you are straight, gay, bi, transgendered, etc...
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I once knew a gay fellow who was very militant and antagonistic toward bisexuals. I was not out as bi and he did not know I was "one". I had to work with him, off and on, and we had a good working relationship.
A married lady, who was openly bisexual, received the brunt of the gay fellow's tirades about his theory that you were either gay, or straight...there was no in between.
After I had known him for some time, I revealed to him that I was bisexual and I truly did like both sexes and had loved both genders. He was shocked, because he had never had the slightest idea I was bi.
But, by not getting in his face and explaining how I felt in a matter-of-fact tone, while not involving myself with his animated discussions about his theory, he began to calm down and finally decided that it really was possible to be bi. I did not have sex with him, but we remained friends.
I learned, years later, that he had actually developed a relationship with a lady and had shared a sexual relationship with her. He was nearly 40, by then. I assume he now understands that anyone can be bisexual!
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Realist, your anecdote made me think of something. Like homophobic, gay bashers are almost always repressing latent homosexual urges, it could be true that militant, anti-bisexual homosexuals are often repressing latent heterosexual urges.
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Well to be honest everyone has their own views and opinions.. and whilst i fence sit on most subjects diversity is one that i feel passionatly about and for.
Well lesbian women might like bisexual women. Straight women might like bisexual men who like gay men.
Bisexual men might like other bi men or gay men and they might even fancy a straight woman everynow and then.
Least not forget the pansexual members, who, can and do fall for individuals under the umbrella.
People are people.
Anyone that asks me, I like bi men, gay men, transmen, straight men...sigh.. but i also like gay women, bi women and straight women..for different reasons.
Bicurious people are cool to..
:tongue:
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LABELS LABELS LABELS !!!!!
Aren't we all people first and foremost? let's focus on that and respect others for what they believe without criticism. This may be a bisexual website in theory.... but in reality it is a forum for people to come and converse, make friends, seek support, and yes...for some it's a place to find a potential lover.
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alex_d
LABELS LABELS LABELS !!!!!
Aren't we all people first and foremost? let's focus on that and respect others for what they believe without criticism. This may be a bisexual website in theory.... but in reality it is a forum for people to come and converse, make friends, seek support, and yes...for some it's a place to find a potential lover.
I agree with most of what everyone has said here, but the words that hit home the most were "Labels labels labels" Why does it matter what orientation we are, if we are here to respect each others diversity and embrace our differences? Personally, I love the fact that so many different walks of life are represented here. I enjoy the chance to get to know people of every orientation, something I can't find in rural Indiana. I always have, and always will, love this site for everything it represents. As always, OP you are entitled to your opinion but I respectfully disagree.
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Originally Posted by
hydropop
I know this will touch the nerves of some people. But someone has to ask ? RIGHT ?
For as long as I have been coming to this site , and my intentions were purely bi. I find that more and more Gay and lesbians come here than Bisexual.
Cant the Bi community have a site of their own? It seems that there are plenty of Gay sites and Lesbians sites out there. Am I wrong in my thinking, or is there no true bisexual site here?
Oh no! We must stay pure! Heaven forbid that gay men and lesbians go on a site for other queer men and women! Or that heterosexuals come here! (sarcasm)
If you want to publically show your disdain and homophobia this is your choice to do so but don't act like you won't get any backlash for it.
I really don't care that you don't like gay men or lesbians but this sort of mentality gets tiresome and it's not my problem that you're homophobic.
:2cents:
Not all gay men hate bisexual men and they're not biphobic for the most part.
Get out there and actually meet gay men and you'll realize that this isn't true.
FWIW I've had nothing but acceptance from gay men and even straight people, as being a kinky queerman.
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Couldnt see where I said I HATED gays or Lesbians.
Love ya kate :-)
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I am mostly homosexual. So, I do not have strong urges to have sex with women. But, I still like women very much and need their presence in my life. I have absolutely no desire to have sex with heterosexual men. But, some of my best friends are heterosexual. I already have a male lover and do not need another. But, I have very little opportunities for contact with others that like both men and women. So that is why this site is important to me.
Perhaps, there is confusion of bisexual men only seeking men and bisexual women only seeking women. That does not mean they are gay. Rather, they already have an opposite sex relationship and only have same sex needs to be satisfied.
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I come here to be openly bisexual...something I can't be anywhere else in my life. Others come here for other things maybe...like to understand...or maybe to be understood. I don't really care. I just wish I could remember my password! We all need to get over ourselves.
Peace..
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Well, i am a pansexual. Am I allowed?
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