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FalconAngel
May 30, 2010, 1:07 PM
Just a little greener way of thinking.


A Parking Spot for Every Bike
posted by: Jasmine Greene 12 hours ago
A Parking Spot for Every Bike


Biking is an integral mode of transportation in many countries including China, France and Brazil, but it is only recently becoming more integrated into the lives of the US. Many of these countries listed have already began viewing bicycles as part of their daily lives and have found ways to incorporate bikes into the city infrastructure. Paris has plans to place thousands of free bikes around the city for public use. Brazil boasts one of the largest bike garages in the world. In the US, many states are beginning to integrate bike garages with the natural cityscape either by merging it with potential bulidings and free space or creating small-scale garages.

One of the most recent cities to begin pushing bicycle transport is Philadelphia. A competition held by the Delaware Valley Green Building Council urged competitors to find ways to make urban areas more sustainable. The winner of the competition was architect Annie Scheel, who proposed an all-in-one bike garage (named BIKE) on an existing parking lot in central Philadelphia. Half of the area would be dedicated to bikes and besides parking for over 690 bikes would also include:

* showers
* lockers
* courtyard/green area
* cafe
* bike shop
* meeting room
* bike swap
* bike rental

The other half of the lot would be open for commercial and business properties. The building itself would be in an L-shape with the bike garage encased all in glass and rising to four-stories in front, courtyard in the middle and commercial in the back. This layout allows for pedestrians to still have a pleasant view of the green area and also allow more natural light to the streets and surrounding buildings[Source: Treehugger].

Of course, Philadelphia is not the first city to have an interest in bike garages. Brazil boasts one of the largest bike garages in the city of Sao Paolo. The garage, Ascobike, houses 1,700 bikes daily and is conveniently located next to public transportation so people can drop off the bikes and ride the trains. Besides this nice commuter benefit and low cost ($5/month), Ascobike also offers "a series of social, legal and bicycle education services" [Source: Treehugger] for cyclists. The increased growth of cyclists in other countries have led to various designs for bike garages. The main issue for these storage units is maximizing the amount of bikes in the buildings. Two designers, Abhinav Dapke and Yinnon Lehrer have come up with a potential solution by creating a vertical parking spot. Lehrer's design provides similar amenities to Scheel's BIKE like showers, bathrooms and lockers. Dapke's design is a simplified version and only features a parking area. Another design team, Penny Farthings, has minitiarized the parking building to a parking station. These stations, called the Green Pod, are 2.4 metres wide by 5 metres long and features up to 28 parking spots, 2 showers, 2 change rooms and 28 lockers [Source: Catapult]. The pod operates on a 12V DC system powered by solar panels on the roof that also heats the water tank. Any grey water from the station is discharged into green areas. Other functionalities include:

* electronic locking system
* LED lighting activated by motion sensors
* timed showers
* self cleaning mechanism [Source: Penny Farthings].

Many cities around the world have adopted a two-wheeled manual alternative to automobiles and the question of where to store these bikes has been answered with bike garages. These garages are rapidly evolving and, should there be enoug support, become incorporated into the urban landscape. While it's still too soon to say goodbye to cars, these added amenities could convince many people to pick up biking again.

elian
May 30, 2010, 5:55 PM
I guess some of the bigger cities have greenbelt paths around the area for people who want to commute by bicycle but where I live there aren't separate bike lanes, the bicycles are mixed in with the regular vehicle traffic - and people are not always very patient (motor vehicle drivers or bicyclists).

A "bike garage" with a coffee shop might be nice but I bet the bicyclists would appreciate a lane of their own more..and that may not be practical in a city that already has street area maxed out.

In GM's vision of the "future" pedestrian traffic was completely separated above vehicular traffic. i guess some cities did build "skywalks" - which I find to be very useful although I'm not sure about walking on them alone at night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74cO9X4NMb4

Futurism is kind of interesting..

Annika L
May 30, 2010, 7:06 PM
Meh...my city's there already...6 bikes, and a public rack that holds...6 bikes. Perfect! Who could ask for anything more? :tong:

FalconAngel
May 30, 2010, 7:11 PM
Meh...my city's there already...6 bikes, and a public rack that holds...6 bikes. Perfect! Who could ask for anything more? :tong:

SO then it's not really practical in your case? Maybe even a bit of overkill?

Doggiestyle
May 31, 2010, 12:40 AM
:bigrin: Bikes are just fine with me. Been riding em for years! I wish every city would provide paths, parking, storage, ETC for all bikes.
Uhhhhhhhh we are speaking of bikes that are gasoline powered, are we not?

Just wondering here. Your friend,,,, :doggie:

FalconAngel
May 31, 2010, 1:16 AM
:bigrin: Bikes are just fine with me. Been riding em for years! I wish every city would provide paths, parking, storage, ETC for all bikes.
Uhhhhhhhh we are speaking of bikes that are gasoline powered, are we not?

Just wondering here. Your friend,,,, :doggie:

Sadly, No, Dog.

They are talking Bicycles.

However, on the front of lowering motor vehicle traffic and carbon footprints in cities, Paris, France has had a ban on all but taxis, delivery vehicles, motorcycles and scooters within in the city's business district, during business hours (Monday through Friday). That has been in place about 15 or more years and, coincidentally, does encourage more bicycle use.

But with the fuel economy of motorcycles, I do love to pull into a gas station at the pump next to a Hummer and, in a loud voice say "150 miles already? Guess it's time for another two and a half gallons of gas.

60 mpg is a wonderful thing. :bigrin:

Annika L
May 31, 2010, 2:03 AM
Sadly, No, Dog.

They are talking Bicycles.


Talking Bicycles?? Falcon...maybe you posted the wrong article...I see an article about bike *garages*, not talking bicycles! (I want somma what *he's* smokin!! :tong:)


SO then it's not really practical in your case? Maybe even a bit of overkill?

If we *are* in fact talking about parking spaces for bicycles, then as I said before, it's not a matter of impractical or overkill...it's just already been done...we already have a parking space for every bike.

jamieknyc
May 31, 2010, 2:05 PM
New York City has implemented bike lanes in a big way, and although bike ridership has gone up, almost all of it is recreational and has a negligible impact on commuting.

I think also that very few people here (or anywher else) would tolerate having to be cooped up all day with coworkers who came in to work all sweaty and disgusting from their morning bike ride.

FalconAngel
May 31, 2010, 9:50 PM
Talking Bicycles?? Falcon...maybe you posted the wrong article...I see an article about bike *garages*, not talking bicycles! (I want somma what *he's* smokin!! :tong:)

The article was found on Care2.com and is talking about bicycle garages, not motorcycle garages.

Wish it were talking about motorcycles. THOSE we could use in a lot of places. More so than bicycle garages.



If we *are* in fact talking about parking spaces for bicycles, then as I said before, it's not a matter of impractical or overkill...it's just already been done...we already have a parking space for every bike.

Yes, the 6 in your town, if I recall correctly. :tongue:

But I think that they are trying to get the big ones up in every major city. I don't see it picking up, nationwide, here in the US, but the cities most troubled by inner city road congestion problems, may find it useful; like Manhattan, LA, downtown Miami or downtown Chicago, for example.

jem_is_bi
May 31, 2010, 10:41 PM
If I could ride a bike to work without fear of being squished or mugged I would do it very often, depending on weather conditions. But, I do not expect that will ever be possible. So, no bike racks exist or are they needed at work until that is possible. Even, the walk to the car after work is sometimes very dangerous.

FalconAngel
Jun 1, 2010, 2:07 AM
Well, like I said before, it would not be practical for a lot of places simply because the areas are too spread out.

I mentioned Manhattan as one place for two reasons; they already have a huge bicycling population, they have a very well laid out public transportation system.

If they could reduce the number of cars on the streets during the business day, Like Paris has done (are they still doing it? Anyone know?), then the carbon footprint of New York would be reduced greatly.

Many larger cities in this country would be too spread out for it to work, except in a small number of cities.

Now a motorcycle parking garage could hold 4 times as many vehicles as a regular parking garage in the same amount of space. All they need do is ban all motor vehicles except for taxis, motorcycles and delivery vehicles and they could reduce emissions by almost 50 percent in the downtown areas of most major American cities by encouraging a reduction in cars in those areas during business hours.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 1, 2010, 12:37 PM
Oh good grief. Timed showers? Their own coffee shop? Would that be considered a "Biker Bar" of sorts?
Like Annika said: "6 bikes, 6 racks" Put in some bike racks with a covered top so the bikes wouldnt get wet and call it good. :rolleyes:
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