Attacked by anti-Bi bullies!

[diget]

i was talkin to a friend and told him i was by, he was shocked and asked how long i had been that was. some kids "big ass high schoolers" over heard. they started following us while we were walking. we noticed and started in another direction but they followed. i asked if they had a problem and one through a rock! started callin us fags and such. me and him both bein pretty small guys we decided to run instead of fighting but they chased us. they cought up with us and hit me so i started beatin on this guys face but he didnt seem to mind much he just went on and socked me in the stomach. my bud was holdin his own with the other guy was was to busy to help me. so i snached out my buck knife and started cutin this dude up and the bastard got up and stomped my face and head a few times. i got up and smashed the bitch in the head with a rock and h went down then i started cuttin up the dude who was beatin on my friend and he ran off.
we called the cops and made a report but they still haven't caught the other dude.
reason i wrote this is because i felt like a fucking GOD at the end of the fight though i kinda got the shit kicked out of my face there for a second. my god
is it creepy that i liked fighting this guy? i mean gettin hurt sucked BAD. but damn if i had the choise to reverse time and stop the fight i wouldn't.

i felt like i had jumped off a mountain and kicked a ninjas ass, fucked james bond them jumped out of a car and let it blow up on a tanker. i hurt bad but feel awesome though i probably will try to avoid fight a bit since i pucked up acid after that dude punch to the stomach.

I suffered a cracked hip joint, a concussion, a fractured skull, and a broken rib.:bigrin:...........i feel like shit.

[Realist]

I'm 6'1" and weigh 200 pounds. In my youth, I wasn't one to start a fight, but I didn't back down from one, either. The worst I was ever hurt in a fight, was by a little Puerto Rican guy who was about 5'6". This guy was BAD! He was fast and accurate and by the time he got through with me, I had knots all over my body! I was 25 then and that's the last fight I ever had...after that I learned that diplomacy was often a better approach to solving disputes!


If I were you, I'd take some self-defense training and, although you may never use what you learn, it could save your ass, some day!

I'm glad you survived, though!

[rissababynta]

Dear Lord, thank God you are ok. And I'm glad to hear that your adrenaline is working properly haha.

[FalconAngel]

I have been fortunate, even though I am a small guy (5'6"), I have never had anyone do much more than vandalize my stuff or make remarks. Everyone that has tried to start with me has backed down and a couple have even become friends.

One friend said that it is something they saw in my eyes when I got mad. They didn't want to try after that.

[Nadir]

Congratulations,diget,you made a very brave thing there :) Dont worry if you felt good about it at the end,you were just giving those fuckers what they were asking for. It´s normal to feel awesome after you have won a fight ( and even if you lose, you start to say that at least the other guy will have a hard time forgetting about you). I have never been one to fight (I must admit I am somewhat of a coward when it becomes to physical violence, I prefer to talk things down with the other person/people). However, what those rednecks did was unnaceptable, and Im glad that both you and your friend are allright :)

[Falke]

Nicely done diget! Your wounds will heal, until then savior the taste of victory over some pretty stacked odds. :cool:

[littlerayofsunshine]

Oh my Goodness. I hope that your healing is speedy. Also to your friend for that matter.

And WTG. No one deserves what they did to you, but you sure as hell gave them what they deserved.

[Donkey_burger]

I don't like to advocate violence. I'm sorry that you feel that you had to resort to it.

I hope you have a speedy recovery.

DB :bipride:

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Yeah, I echo everyones sentiments. I'm sorry you had to resort to causing damage and were forced to pull out a knife. You must have had good reflexes to have time to whip out a knife and open it while the guy was stomping your face.
Violent is Stupid, but if it comes down to it, do some damage if its brought to you.
Get well soon Sugar. Hope the cops take care of the little punk properly and that you dont get into too much trouble for using a knife...
Cat

[handlebar]

All the best to you for a speedy recovery. Jerks like that deserve all they get.
I'm glad to read that you did indeed defend yourself well. I don't like violence per se but as a major upholder of 2nd amendment rights, I know that a person has to defend him/herself. anyone even thinks of getting near my family and you would read about it on the news.

Please get better.

Jim

[Long Duck Dong]

diget, you may feel like a god now.... but give it a few good years.....

I am 39, my hands, face and body are scarred from fighting, my joints ache, my hands are scarred and stiff and a number of times I have ended up in hospital thru fighting.....

I wish that I could turn back time and walk away from a lot of the fights... nothing people have said about me or to me over the years, has hurt me as much as I hurt now......

one thing I have learnt, is you can never beat a person, you can punch them and hurt them, bruise them and break bones..... but the only way you can ever beat a person completely, is when they never get up again......and thats something you never wanna do......

dude, you had a fight, for better or worse you may have * won *....but you have made yourself a target too...... I wish you the best

[Falke]

dude, you had a fight, for better or worse you may have * won *....but you have made yourself a target too...... I wish you the best

LDD, I respectfully disagree. It sounds like you had some scuffles that could have been avoided, and in reality it is better if they are avoided. However, in my experiences, there is a time to fight and standing there and taking the beating instead of taking action will make you just as much a target as kicking ass. Unfortunately, I was this way at one time. I was the easy one to pick on, this just made it all far, far worse. In one case, I stood there and took a beating for fear of causing further problems, all for nothing really and it just made me even more of a target.

Basically, kicking the ass of everything that looks at you wrong is just as foolish as being a pacifist who will not even fight for their own well being. Both will land you in the crosshairs of someone who wants to prove something for whatever dumbass reason. The key is moderation, be assertive: Defend yourself as bi did when needed, but don't go looking for trouble.

[buck-rogers]

I'm a slim dude, I'm about 5'9" and 125lbs. Needless to say I was (and still am) someone who doesn't know when to shut up and it got me beat up quite a bit back in high school. When the jocks and bullies hassled me I'd fire an insult right back at them, dodge their punches (cus I was quick and squirrley and I could) but eventually they'd catch me and give me the pummeling of my life (alot I wish never happened). My older bro would get them back the next day with the most one sided fist fight you'd ever seen (despite my trying to stop him, I liked his help all the same). This went through grade 9 and 10 but ended in 11. At that point I became extremely popular and I was untouchable, I even became friends with a couple of my former attackers.

But I never forget getting wailed on or getting locked in my locker and having to shout the combo to a paserby to get out. Even though I got past the bullying I still remember it too much some days. I often wondering what it would feel like to fight back but I'm not a violent person and I could never throw a fist.

[Long Duck Dong]

lol past experience,.... nobody likes to be beaten by a * fag * excuse the term...and they always have friends.....

and yeah I had many scuffles I should have just walked away from... there were times that no action was needed, but me being me, ....sighs....

but my advice to biget is from a past as a fighter... and carrying a knife is dangerous, even if you know how to use it...cos you only have to drop it one or get over powered...and you will still have ya knife.... just inside you....

I was bullied at school, badly... so i learnt to fight back..... then I had everybody wanting to teach the * wimp * a lesson for fighting back.... and I was forced time and time again to fight... I never wanted to fight, I wanted to be left alone.....
then they went after my sister, 9 on one... that was the day I said enuf was enuf.... and I left no doubt about how I felt.... nor did I pull any punches.....

there is a time to stand and fight, and a time to walk away.... and a time to decide if what you are fighting for, is truely a reason to fight.....
its a bit like being in the armed forces, you are a trained fighter but there are times that you question the reason you are facing the bullets and if its really a good reason for you to be in the firing line....

the other side of fighting is that you can inflict a injury that can lead to permanent injury or death....and quess who is facing the judge.... not the * bully * but you......

so my advice to anybody, is defend yourself and protect yourself, but the first chance you get to run, do it.....

and ask yourself, if diget ended up killing one of the attackers, would people still be saying good job ????

or would we be saying it was a gay hate crime if diget ended up in hospital with wounds from his own knife or dead..... ????

[FalconAngel]

LDD, I respectfully disagree. It sounds like you had some scuffles that could have been avoided, and in reality it is better if they are avoided. However, in my experiences, there is a time to fight and standing there and taking the beating instead of taking action will make you just as much a target as kicking ass. Unfortunately, I was this way at one time. I was the easy one to pick on, this just made it all far, far worse. In one case, I stood there and took a beating for fear of causing further problems, all for nothing really and it just made me even more of a target.

Basically, kicking the ass of everything that looks at you wrong is just as foolish as being a pacifist who will not even fight for their own well being. Both will land you in the crosshairs of someone who wants to prove something for whatever dumbass reason. The key is moderation, be assertive: Defend yourself as bi did when needed, but don't go looking for trouble.

Absolutely.

When you stand against a bully, the usual end result is that the bully either backs down or gets his ass kicked.

If one is able to fight back, one should. If you can fight and don't, then you are asking for the bully to come back and kick your ass again. Like terrorists, they prefer soft targets over hard targets.

[Long Duck Dong]

Absolutely.

When you stand against a bully, the usual end result is that the bully either backs down or gets his ass kicked.

If one is able to fight back, one should. If you can fight and don't, then you are asking for the bully to come back and kick your ass again. Like terrorists, they prefer soft targets over hard targets.

and you base that on what experience??? .......

my opinions is based on years of fighting, experience that I would rather not have..... *winning a fight * and finding that instead of one bully to deal with, I have 4-5 with revenge on their minds....

I will never regain the sight in my left eye from fighting back against a bully, the same bully that gave me 18 stitches in the left side of my face 3 weeks later, the same bully and his friends that ran me down in a car 4 years later ( permanently damaged knee ) the same bullies that targeted my sister as a message to me.....

google school bullying in nz, and read the reports of teens commiting suicide cos of prolonged bullying and how when they fought back the bullies just went after them harder.....

then tell me that fighting works......

[roy m cox]

"omg" diget "hugs"

i had about the same when i was about 14 tho it was a a guy in my school and he was much much bigger than me he was like 200 some thing pounds and i was like 116 pounds beat the shit out of me i ended up i the hospital for a week ,, the bugger of it is no body stop him from beating me up people just ignored my screams for help :(

just glad your ok tho

[Long Duck Dong]

as mainly people know, i live in new zealand..... we are facing epidemic levels of bullying in schools....

now in the old days ( 25 years ago ) bullying was name calling and a few punches.... and the cane from the head master.... ( corporal punishment has been removed )

currently, it takes many forms, cyber bullying, name calling, offensive texts and emails, shoving and pushing, threats etc etc

as we push for anti discrimination and *protection * we have encouraged groups like the LGBT teens etc etc...to meet at schools for support ...and made them targets of bullying and abuse.... a number of the teens I know, ended up leaving school or being home schools..... but the bullying is not confined to the LGBT, its school wide ....kids as young as 11-12 finding that they are targets of bullying and anti social behievour....

in a society that is anti discrimination.... instead of dealing with issues and facing them, we sugar coat them and make excuses..... ( schools may not expel a school bully as they have a right to education, so the school bullies are often sent to another school.... and they carry right on bullying kids )

a number of the bullies that I know about, are referred to as kids from low eco social development homes, broken homes, homes with lil or no discipline. etc etc.... and that is about the extent of the action taken to stop bullying

do not get me wrong, as far as I am concerned, bullying is unstoppable... you can never get rid of it.... in the case of the greenies and the PC crew in NZ, they pander to the *poor misunderstood bullies * and ignore the fact they are making life hell for other kids....

currently I am seeing a society where fighting back is NOT a option... you do and you face disciplinary action in schools, for defending yourself....the reason for that is most schools know they can not stop the bullies so they try to stop the bullied from turning aggressive.... and that is telling the kids, put up with the bullying cos the bullies are allowed to bully you

now we are seeing the bullies on the streets, young adults and adults.... and the bullying is not stopping... cos the bullies know that they have the power to continue.... stopping them is not easy.... most of the time you face a dragged out legal system that in most cases, is powerless to act...or when it does.... doesn't do a hell of a lot.....

unfortunately, we are burying the victims of school bullying and adult fighting...( suicide, manslaughter, aggravated assaults, workplace bullying etc )... now as a few people in the thread have indicated, fighting back and kicking ass works and its good to do......

so i ask the question, at what point do you cease being a victim and become the bully.....

the simple answer is there is no line.... its as blurry as dirty glasses on a 3/4 blind man.....

we have legal avenues to use, and laws to protect us..... but they do not always work and often they work against us.....
things like work place bullying can result in a employment tribunal ruling in favour of the employee.... and in doing so, label the employee as a problematic person which can limit employment opportunities....

in a street fight, you can fight back, at the risk of your health and wellbeing, but you can end up becoming the person in court..and gaining a criminal record... that can restrict you in life....

even in a relationship, you can become the aggressive parter by way of mental and emotional pressure ( I am deliberately excluding violence for a reason ),.....and cost yourself your marriage / relationship and friends....

but to actually give people a idea of a bully..... think about how you post in bisexual.com....

ask yourself, do you post a opinion, share a idea, express your thoughts, or do you post in a way that pushes people against a wall.... see a name that immediately look to see what they have posted and read it to see if you can debate it, tell people that their opinions, debates etc etc are unfounded, incorrect, not accurate or just plain ( to use a term that was posted recently ) strawman arguments.....

that is how blurry the line is with bullying.... and most people are not aware they do it..... they need the serious violence, emotional / mental abuse type bullying to remark about bullying and fighting back..... when in fact bullying is 95% very subtle and happens every day many many many times, its just that we call it expressing a opinion.....

and yes, I do cross the line regularly, its a bad habit of mine, but a lot of it is the way I word my opinions... and thats all they are, opinions and expressing ideas...... and that is what we teach our children, they have the right to express themselves as long as its within reason, and not hurting others.....
little do we realise.... its the * have the right * that is actually the heart of bullying....

I have the right to express myself...... something that has become the catch phrase of activists, vocal speakers, protestors......and bullies......

now who is responsible ?, the kid that calls people names and pushes them against a wall and give them a black eye.... or the person that told him, express yourself and stand up for yourself.....

take a good look around, and think to yourself, you may be the one that is saying * we have to stand up for our rights, the right to express ourselves * ..... and how do we do that..... we do things like * bully * the government into changing laws for us......

now that the line is far more blurry with bullying ..... and I have really raises a lot of questions and peoples desires to comment.... I am gonna simply smile and go to bed......

but one last question.....

did you wanna reply to this cos of my name, the way I post in the site, cos the post got your attention or cos you felt the need to debate or point exception to some of my remarks....or do you end up bullied into replying and fighting back against me and my remarks.....

:eek: hums * sticks and stones may break my bones, but the power of speech divides nations *:tong:

[jamiehue]

Funny those who havent had real violence inflected or dealt are so brave.Myself i can understand ldd's position of nonviolence unless there is noway out God help those that would back us in a corner Mr.Hyde lives in those recesses waiting.

[Falke]

Well, LDD, you describe a loosing situation either way. From personal experience, sitting there and taking the beating is just stupid and still makes you just as much of a target as you described fighting them did to you. Regardless of what you do, you take the damage of a beating anyway, may as well fight back and not make it one-sided.

As far as the street bullies, that is why I conceal carry. I have taken too many hits in the past to let it keep happening. As I said in another thread, I would have no issues using it than EVER let some asshole with whatever chip on their shoulder assault me for their personal pleasure again.