Bi or gay male films:Why always hardcore?

[handlebar]

I find it increasingly difficult to locate bi or gay male films that don't seem to always have hardcore sex (oral,anal,etc) or are ambiguous at best. Yet the lesbian side of things abounds in wonderful movies that really shine.
The few male based film that I have seem always show a rougher side to the masculinity and rarely show a tender or neutral side.
In my dreams,a film about a bi or bi curious married man that juggles his feelings for male bonding along with his marriage would be appropriate.

I have really enjoyed watching "Maurice" over the years. It is a splendid film.

I hated "Brokeback Mountain" intensely (cinematography excepted).

Any others you can recommend?

Jim

[roy m cox]

their is a lot of movies out their that are not all hard core you just need to look in the right sites theirs Japanese movies that go light on the nude and love making if you want ill get some sites i go to and give you links to them :)

Japanese do have some grate love story's :)


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[mrplayfuluk]

I've mentioned this before elsewhere but the German film by Wim Wenders called Waterdrops on Burning Rocks might be what you're looking for...

[Georgie_Girl]

Have you seen Adam and Steve, Latter Days, Big Eden or Mambo Italiano? Those are all films with gay male characters and they're pretty good. Unless you're talking about porn, in which case I can't help you. :)

[12voltman59]

Well--you sorta of answer your own question in your title---those films are by design meant to be "hardcore" gay/bi porn.

They are all about the doing the deed--there is not much subtlety to them--they are all about just getting down to business.

I do agree--I wished that it were possible that it was acceptable that Hollywood could make films with some explicit sex in them---stories that have a real story and all----and the sex that does take place has a real context.

There have only been a few handful of Hollywood films that have anything close to having realistic sex in them---"Last Tango in Paris" being one--and "Henry and June" being another--both films were very controversial and they weren't so widely distributed.

The movie industry did come up with the NC 17 rating--but hardly any films have ever been released with that rating--"Henry and June" being one of the few I can think of--but with the major movie theater companies basically stating-"we won't show films with an NC-17 rating"--that bascially shut off any possiblity a film with such a rating gets made.

To me----it is a sad relflection of where we are as a people that its seems to be mostly fine that we can have films where people are massacred pretty graphically like in films such as the "Halloween" "Saw" and other such series--that is pretty much OK--but have a film with real people having realistic sex--and oh my God---it is just the worst thing ever!!!

It is kind of like one of things that the late, great comedian George Carlin liked to say that was along this line--"it is fine if someone sells bombs and guns that kill people----but if we want to sell orgasms to each other--- that is a bad thing!! That is fucked up to me!!!"

[Donkey_burger]

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I do agree--I wished that it were possible that it was acceptable that Hollywood could make films with some explicit sex in them---stories that have a real story and all----and the sex that does take place has a real context.

There have only been a few handful of Hollywood films that have anything close to having realistic sex in them---"Last Tango in Paris" being one--and "Henry and June" being another--both films were very controversial and they weren't so widely distributed.

The movie industry did come up with the NC 17 rating--but hardly any films have ever been released with that rating--"Henry and June" being one of the few I can think of--but with the major movie theater companies basically stating-"we won't show films with an NC-17 rating"--that bascially shut off any possiblity a film with such a rating gets made.

To me----it is a sad relflection of where we are as a people that its seems to be mostly fine that we can have films where people are massacred pretty graphically like in films such as the "Halloween" "Saw" and other such series--that is pretty much OK--but have a film with real people having realistic sex--and oh my God---it is just the worst thing ever!!!

It is kind of like one of things that the late, great comedian George Carlin liked to say that was along this line--"it is fine if someone sells bombs and guns that kill people----but if we want to sell orgasms to each other--- that is a bad thing!! That is fucked up to me!!!"

It's like violence is a "natural" behavior, and sex isn't. I mean, I can see where a film where there's explicit sex wouldn't be shown to a child, but still. It's still maddening, though. :soapbox:

DB :flag4:

[mikey3000]

Latter Days, Shelter, Mambo Italiano and Summer Storm. The first two are absokutely breathtaking!!! You'll love them. There are so many. Look under soft core in the gay porn section, there you'll find the romance.

[FalconAngel]

If it were not for those overzealous censors, there would be better films with good content and sex.

In a very real sense, it was the censors that helped to create and perpetuate the porn industry, by restricting the content that others see and not allowing people to judge for themselves what content they find objectionable. It may even be indirectly responsible for much of the modern GLBT issues in society today, due to the restrictive puritanical societal standards that they have tried to enforce for the past 100 plus years. And it only got more restrictive in the 50's.

Now, as those restrictions begin to loosen up, things will get a lot easier to put sex into more films for an artistic point of view and further storylines (And to titilate us all ;) )