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12voltman59

Feb 6, 2009, 6:30 AM

This time the name is "Birdflu"--I won't post up the email I got from the troll--it is pretty much the same content of the last couple of emails were under different names.

This person is something----that he tries to say he is a different person each time---yet the content of the messages are verbatim from previous messages----

Just figured I let ya'all know---"He's BBBBBBBAAAHHHCCCKKKKK!!"

The basic jist of his latest email to me---just like the prior ones--that I am a racist, a bi and homophobe since I used the term "on the down low" in a now old post---I guess he didn't go and look at the subsquent posts that I put up on the subject---with links to stories in media on the subject like the New York Times, Slate.com, some African-American community online sites and info on a few well known books on the subject--- written by Blacks---and that I also used the term in a more general way----that many people are on the "down low" irrespective of race--but for the dumb ass---I will retract the use of the term "down low" and go back to the old phrase that is more universal---many people of all races and ethiic persuasions are "in the closet!"

Now fool--stop sending me the same freakin' word for word emails under your various names--you have worn out that subject--time for sending me nastygrams with some new content!!! :bigrin::bigrin:

You are so predictable!!!

rissababynta

Feb 6, 2009, 11:07 AM

What lovely news! My day is now complete lol. How much ya'll want to bet that I will eventually have something negative said about me in my "fat" thread lol.

rissababynta

Feb 6, 2009, 11:10 AM

Just because it still makes me chuckle lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Yk2CDPbOc

csrakate

Feb 6, 2009, 11:12 AM

Just because it still makes me chuckle lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Yk2CDPbOc

OMG...now I'm going to have this song in my head for the rest of the day!!!! LOL!!!!

rissababynta

Feb 6, 2009, 12:03 PM

That was the goal lol.

Lonewolf76

Feb 6, 2009, 12:06 PM

Ya gotta admit they sure make life exciting! Just for info - I think they have reaised the rates on the trollway as well - I tried to offer one my :2cents: and he got nasty with me! Everyone had better carry a wodden nickle or they won't let you cross the bridge! LOL Such sad small-minded little creatures! Cheers everyone! LW

FalconAngel

Feb 6, 2009, 1:35 PM

Light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks!!

If we really wanted to get rid of the Trolls, I believe that I can still get access to programs that will not only track down the IP addy of someone, but also the physical address of the computer that the IP addy goes to. They are similar to the programs that are used by the FBI and Homeland Security.

If someone that knows us (that we also know) wants a copy, then let us know and I will see if I can still get them.

Cherokee_Mountaincat

Feb 6, 2009, 1:57 PM

lol The troll needs to watch the movie called "The Untraceable" and see what my Computer Guru can do if Drew ever wants his help in tracking him down. When caught, and he Will be eventually, I think we're all going to be quite surprised at who he is..:}
Preparing for the barrage..
Cat :rolleyes:

12voltman59

Feb 6, 2009, 4:55 PM

After going back and reading the nastygram he sent me again---I did find that it was not exactly a carbon copy of the other messages he sent me in the past----

So in the interest of public interest---here is his message to me in its entirety:

Sorry the idea that men on the "down low" give women HIV theory is bullshit
since it's racist, homophobic, and biphobic.

I'm a bi black man and I don't like people like yourself who think that it's
true.

You can claim that white men are/can be Down Low but that's not true as "The
DOWN LOW" in regards to sexuality is a thing that mainly only happens with BLACK
men and sometimes LATINO men, not WHITE men. Do the research on the term!

It makes sense that you would support it even though you yourself have probably
had your fair share of sex with men who are closeted and not out and you
yourself were probably

sexually active as a closeted man with both men and women. You probably still
are closeted in many ways yourself as you do have pictures of other things in
your profile on here but you don't show any of your face at all.

Heterosexuals spread HIV among themselves enough as it is, and HIV is a
heterosexual disease since more people worldwide who are heterosexual get it
from having sex with opposite gender partners even in the United States and
Europe.

News flash! HIV effects everyone no matter what their gender/sexual preference
is, and straight women are not more at risk than anyone else and everyone is at
risk.

As far as the other diseases like cancer and heart disease go they've always
effected women just like HIV has. Next time actually think and try to use what
little intelligence you have before you post such ignorant crap.

Way to be a fucking ignorant idiot, morons like you are everything that's wrong
with humanity.

If you actually think that I'm pulling all of this out of my ass like you do
with your posts here are some links and information about how there's no link
between men on the "down low" and spreading HIV to black women.

The big picture is that there is only 2.2 million people total in jail in the
U.S..
compared to a total U.S. population of 300 million. Therefore less than 1% of
the population is currently incarcerated.

And Gay and bisexual men number in the 3% range of the population as well.

Multiple sex partners also plays a huge effect both in africa, and in african
american populations. But you ain't supposed to talk about that.

So this brings us back to risky hetero sexual activity as the cause.

Black and Hispanic young women often engage in a practice called 'hoin'. Which
is essentially an act of prostituting themselves for a short period of time to
either raise money for an apartment, fine clothing, jewelry, food for their
kids, a car or just living expenses.

Hoin, usually takes place outside of the female's hometown. The girl will take a
greyhound bus, a laptop computer, some lingerie or stripping attire and hit the
road to a big city somewhere, to raise money either by selling herself via an
internet ad, a strip club, bar, nightclub, a festival or even on the street.

Once she makes enough money, she returns back home and resumes her respectable
lifestyle, without anyone noticing that she even left town.

Oftentimes, in these sexual excursions, condoms break, unsafe sexual intercouse
may occur like gangbangs, orgies or other events transpire to expose these girls
to the virus.

http://southernhiv.wordpress.com/2007/02/28/how-the-down-low-myth-hurts-hiv-prevention-and-is-racist/

An article in the Annals of Epidemiology took the measure of available research
in the field and concluded that "the DL was neither new and sufficient data
linking it to HIV/AIDS disparities currently are lacking." Researchers don't
deny the existence of closeted black men in committed relationships with women
or that some of these men infect their spouses. But they're skeptical about the
Down Low as a primary explanation for the high rates of HIV among black women.
And they also don't think black men in relationships with women are more likely
than other men to have closeted sex with men.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2004-08-03/news/sex-lies-death/

So blaming the down low black/latin man, closeted white man, is overly
simplistic, and misplaced. Once people start to develop the courage to blame
women for their own sexual health issues, we will begin to tackle the problem at
hand.

These women are to blame since they can use condoms, be selective who they have
sex with, or use safer sex techniques but aren't even doing any of that, and
like most breeders (heterosexuals) they think that HIV only happens to gays and
junkies.

rissababynta

Feb 6, 2009, 6:22 PM

Volty, he mentiond the hoin stuff in my thread about me shaving my head under BlackFever too.

The description he used was essentially the same as well.

12voltman59

Feb 6, 2009, 6:50 PM

Just an FYI, ya'all---I decided I would try to send "BirdFlu" a private message back to him via Bisexual.com's email system----and guess what--while I leave it open that I can get emails via the system here in spite of his many emails to me that get directed to one of my email accounts----it will probably come as no surprise to anyone----but when I clicked on the link to message him back--I got a system message saying that he has things set on his profile to block emails from anyone here on the site.

So---I will let this situation speak for itself---he feels free to ping me pretty regularly with his missives--but yet he doesn't leave himself open for me to respond directly back to him.

I do want to apologize to everyone in that it seems that I am fixated on the troll in return--but the fact that for whatever reason--he has long fixed some of his ire on me--I know that this is a certain person, because much of what gets said by each new "person" goes back to the same sorts of things that the original person that had issues with me----it is just not possible that you get dozens of people who come to this site--pick on the same people time and time again---saying many of the same things and hung up on the same issues too----believe me--I would much rather be free of this person-----it sometimes does make it not so fun to remain here----but out of my deep affection for this site--I do remain in spite of this person's continual bothersome harping on the same old things as he does and his fixation on me.

The big thing to me---this is more of a major frustration---frustation that this person--under the cloak of anonymity provided by the internet----he can continue to be a pest----I would sure like to find who this person is in the real world so what he does can be directly dealt with---as it stands--he is free to do as he will---and that is what is so frustating about this whole thing.

So once again---I do apologize for spending so much time on this--given my druthers--I sure as hell would love nothing better to than to be done with this person--but as long as I remain here--I guess he is a cross I have to bear.

FalconAngel

Feb 6, 2009, 7:07 PM

12voltman59

Feb 7, 2009, 2:56 AM

One last report on the emails sent by the troll---I tried sending a message back to his email account directly--I just sent an empty message with only a subject--all of the email accounts he uses lately are from Gmail--which is Googles email system---just like in the past--this time the test message bounced back as undeliverable----so this person is not only a pest--but a coward to be sure----he also clearly does have some sort of mental breakdown going on for sure.

Cherokee_Mountaincat

Feb 7, 2009, 3:12 AM

Its ok Volty. He must have a special folder to copy/paste from because he cannot think of anything more original. I loved how this time, and the time before this, he was a black man. Not only is he a gender confused/wanna be slash bigotted coward, he's a forGetful redundant one at that. I also suspect he has a female persona too, but that is to be determined as of yet.
Dont worry about small minds and even smaller hearts, Sugar. Your loved and liked just like you are. Something he'll never get to experiance from anyone here. .
Yer Cat

Lonewolf76

Feb 7, 2009, 10:22 AM

MaybeSayMaybe

Feb 7, 2009, 9:57 PM

Re: So once again---I do apologize for spending so much time on this--given my druthers--I sure as hell would love nothing better to than to be done with this person--but as long as I remain here--I guess he is a cross I have to bear.

He's just a whacked out southern boy from south Georgia. He's probably been in the local lockup a few too many times. One has to endure a little halitosis in the old first amendment ya know...

Those links he has about Aids in the south are pretty creepy.

By the way, if you are from out of state, never drive down those local roads in south Georgia. The police still think we live in the middle ages.

H'm. Maybe that troll wears a badge... What a pleasant thought.
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AdamKadmon43

Feb 8, 2009, 12:23 AM

Re:
.....By the way, if you are from out of state, never drive down those local roads in south Georgia. The police still think we live in the middle ages.

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If you think that Georgia is primitive, don't even consider driving around in Alabama. Being able to speak proper English and being married to someone more distant than your second cousin and being politically something other than a conservative Republican is considered subversive and un-American in Alabama, and will probably get you arrested. And I am reasonably certain that being gay, lesbian, or bi is still a capital offense there.

Whereas Georgia might be still in the Middle ages, Alabama is firmly planted in the Dark ages.

And before you go getting your tits in a wringer about it, MaybeSayMay(whatever)...., I was born and raised in Dothan, Alabama, so I know a little of whence I speak. Most of the difficulties in my life are the direct result of my family having spent too much time swimming in their own gene pool, and their failed attempts at curing my bisexuality and forcing me to accept the lord jesus christ as my personal saviour (what ever the hell that means).

There is one thing that sort of bothers me though.... Why the hell do you still live there? I thought that most everyone with more than half a brain had left Alabama a long time ago.

void()

Feb 8, 2009, 2:33 AM

A program called Sam Spade is quite useful at times. "oops, did I type that aloud?" :)

On another note somewhat related, we've had a bit of modest windfall recently. Tax returns were nice this year. As a result Christy will allow me to purchase a Linux box computer. I have had some Unix and Posix experience, a bit of Linux as well. I'm not a guru by any means, however ... well my hubbay elian can probably guess the h word used to describe a type of person I was once, hope to be again soon. (ahem)

That noted, I shan't tarnish the wings or go off the reservation. It'll just be nice to have a new / old hobby back in life, and to be able to continually be in the loop to learn again. Who knows? May even wind up educating myself into a better station of life.

Also been enjoying an interesting current read in pdf format. The title is _Think and Grow Rich_, it isn't some half baked get rich quick book, rather a presentation of some pragmatical ideas for living and achieving goals.

Mr/Mrs/Ms. Troll, you ought to look into achieving goals. I know it has began to help me focus and start to break away from the grip of depression. It seems from what many and myself observe, you're a depressed person too. Thought I'd offer a 'this is what seems to be helping me' suggestion, your mileage may vary and such, take it or leave it.

BrotherJack

Feb 8, 2009, 12:31 PM

If you think that Georgia is primitive, don't even consider driving around in Alabama. Being able to speak proper English and being married to someone more distant than your second cousin and being politically something other than a conservative Republican is considered subversive and un-American in Alabama, and will probably get you arrested. And I am reasonably certain that being gay, lesbian, or bi is still a capital offense there.

Whereas Georgia might be still in the Middle ages, Alabama is firmly planted in the Dark ages.

And before you go getting your tits in a wringer about it, MaybeSayMay(whatever)...., I was born and raised in Dothan, Alabama, so I know a little of whence I speak. Most of the difficulties in my life are the direct result of my family having spent too much time swimming in their own gene pool, and their failed attempts at curing my bisexuality and forcing me to accept the lord jesus christ as my personal saviour (what ever the hell that means).

There is one thing that sort of bothers me though.... Why the hell do you still live there? I thought that most everyone with more than half a brain had left Alabama a long time ago.

''If you think that Georgia is primitive, don't even consider driving around in Alabama. Being able to speak proper English and being married to someone more distant than your second cousin and being politically something other than a conservative Republican is considered subversive and un-American in Alabama, and will probably get you arrested. And I am reasonably certain that being gay, lesbian, or bi is still a capital offense there.

Whereas Georgia might be still in the Middle ages, Alabama is firmly planted in the Dark ages.''

OK sweetheart :kiss:.....I'm not going to disagree with you about this first part......not all that much.....though I am sure, that, as usual....you are exaggerating.........;)

''And before you go getting your tits in a wringer about it, MaybeSayMay(whatever)...., I was born and raised in Dothan, Alabama, so I know a little of whence I speak. Most of the difficulties in my life are the direct result of my family having spent too much time swimming in their own gene pool, and their failed attempts at curing my bisexuality and forcing me to accept the lord jesus christ as my personal saviour (what ever the hell that means).''

Do you not think that things may have changed a little...just a little.....in the 50 years since you left Alabama....aged approximately 15???? I beseech you in the bowels of Christ (Oliver Cromwell said that to Charles I)....think you not, that you could be wrong (the last bit of the quote is not quite accurate). No! Ok.....I'll you have your own way again...Oops!...I never do that....you just do it. Good and bad people everywhere Adam! Whatever race, creed or colour they may be. Gee whizz....you're one to call others critical or phobic etc etc......you even accused my school friend Shobhna (who I haven't seen we were 17), of being a probable terrorist!!!! She'd have run rings around you laddie!!

This is the first time, that I have heard that there was lots of interbreeding in your family! Methinks you are telling porkie pies again! Heh, so what's new about that:bigrin:

You've never, ever told me that they tried to cure your bisexuality.......if indeed you are bisexual (No, I won't go into all that again..... the bouncy ball of were you married or not and the name changing and the death defying mistress that wasn't, or maybe is, gets too complicated). Gee whizz....I reckon your kin had a hell of a lot more reasons to become exasperated with you....and as for the church and God.....it's a long time ago that you rejected it all....get over it....You had your way....you left the narrow views behind....but the guilt at doing so.....No way!!!

Leave it behind.....people are people..just that. Even educated people can be bigots. Even the primordial man himself!!

''There is one thing that sort of bothers me though.... Why the hell do you still live there? I thought that most everyone with more than half a brain had left Alabama a long time ago.''

Maybe ''Maybe'' likes Alabama!! You hadn't thought about that, had you???? You left 50 years ago and I don't even know if you ever returned, at any point. One could say.....why Louisiana? Why New Orleans? Why Colorado? Why anywhere in particular? For wherever you go, you will find hatred and intolerance, but you will also find love, caring and acceptance of others and not just because of any particular sexual orientation.

Maybe ''Maybe'' loves the landscape, the people known, the house lived in, the sunset through the window. There are lots of reasons for staying in one place.........OK!!:)

PS ''Alabama is firmly planted in the Dark ages.''

Ahem.....you live in the dark age, right now!!

BrotherJack

Feb 8, 2009, 12:33 PM

''

Maybe ''Maybe'' likes Alabama!! You hadn't thought about that, had you???? You left 50 years ago and I don't even know if you ever returned, at any point. One could say.....why Louisiana? Why New Orleans? Why Colorado? Why anywhere in particular? For wherever you go, you will find hatred and intolerance, but you will also find love, caring and acceptance of others and not just because of any particular sexual orientation.

Maybe ''Maybe'' loves the landscape, the people known, the house lived in, the sunset through the window. There are lots of reasons for staying in one place.........OK!!:)

PS ''Alabama is firmly planted in the Dark ages.''

Ahem.....you live in the dark age, right now!!

Oh well...I screwed that one up........Gee...I hope folks can follow it