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FalconAngel
Dec 26, 2008, 7:25 PM
I know that many of us have seen posts like this before, but because we have people coming to the site all the time, it bears rehashing.

Many of us have been here a while and because we are looking for friends, lovers, etc. who are like us. These are the reasons that the site exists, as far as we are concerned and probably as far as most of us are concerned.

But here is the thing that new folks don't seem to get;

If you don't want people to know anything about you, then social sites like this are not for you. Stick with the Yahoo groups that promise you absolute anonymity.

If you are here to meet friends or lovers, then fill out your profile.

Fill it out completely and be honest.
We're not saying that you need to put you address or anything like that, but at least put your state, maybe the town or area that you live in.

Post a picture, if you can. Let folks see who you are. This is a pretty safe site as far as these sites go.

Let people know what you are looking for and what your interests are. Not just sexually, but non-sexually. After all, this may be a site where folks are looking for sex, but it is also a site for people to make friends.

Our profiles are what let others know if they even want to talk to us in the first place.

A blank profile tells others that you have nothing to offer anyone looking.

A blank profile is also indicative of trolls, which many of us have dealt with many times on this and other sites.

A blank profile will not win you any friends, either, because of those reasons as well as others.

You may keep a blank profile because of fear of getting "outed". While that is possible everywhere, it is not extremely likely on this site.

There are a lot of people who are closeted that have completed profiles on this site, but having a blank profile will make things harder to get to know you as well.

And if you are trying to hook up with people here, their response will be a whole lot warmer if you have a completed profile and even more so if you tell them something of yourself in your contacts with them in addition to a completed profile.

If you cannot open up to other bisexuals and Bi-friendly people, then why are you even here? After all, this is one of the reasons the site exists in the first place.

This site is a haven for folks who are not straight; it is considered to be a safe place and should be treated as such, so fill out your profiles.

There are a lot of good people here, but if you are one of them and you have a blank profile, it will take a lot longer for people to get to know you and accept you.

:2cents:

Realist
Dec 26, 2008, 9:04 PM
Yes, that is frustrating. You find someone with an interesting veiwpoint and would like to know a little more about them, then there's nothing in their profile. No one has to write more than they feel comfortable with, but they can at least give a small glimpse into their interests...............I recently changed mine, but plan to from time to time, anyway.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Dec 26, 2008, 9:17 PM
Bravo, Falcon. Wel said. Another thing that bothers me is when they dont bother to put their age down. That's frustrating too. If I want to talk with someone and get to know them better then I'd like to at least know their age.
Again, well said and to the point. :}
Cat

Okole
Dec 27, 2008, 12:01 AM
I always reckon an empty profile means the individual is not a serious person. Empty profile empty sincerity. IMHO

IllinoisGuy
Dec 27, 2008, 12:04 AM
The other reason for the empty profiles is that the person(or couple) might have found the site by accident and just wanted to check it out. And they created the blank profile just in case they decided to come back-then they would fill it out.

FalconAngel
Dec 27, 2008, 12:06 AM
Well, we figured that it was time to post on the subject again.

We have gotten so many responses from people who have no profile info at all and have shown that they did not bother to read our profile.
Mostly elsewhere, but here as well, from time to time, but the fact that they are not interested in filling out their own profile and don't really show that they have read our profile is rather frustrating.

Plus, we have had a glut of new people over the past few months and it can be helpful for them to help them get acclimatized to the site and the people here.

mr.s & mrs.s
Dec 27, 2008, 12:22 AM
Hello were new here ourselves only been on the site for about a month. We are just now getting our profile set up. We have been tring to get familiar with the site and some of the members before we filled it out. We have found this to be a great site and most we have talked to have been very nice.

FalconAngel
Dec 27, 2008, 2:16 AM
Hello were new here ourselves only been on the site for about a month. We are just now getting our profile set up. We have been tring to get familiar with the site and some of the members before we filled it out. We have found this to be a great site and most we have talked to have been very nice.

Trust us when we tell you to just be honest about what you put in your profile. Just say what you are interested in and what you are looking for. Say as much or as little as you are comfortable with.

That will be the easiest way for others to get to know you, once you post a few things or get into chat sessions. A complete profile can be a huge help for folks trying to get to know you as well.

bret5668
Dec 27, 2008, 2:27 AM
For the most part I agree with what you had to say in your post, however, I feel the need to post a rebuttal. The fact that someone has a blank profile is not necessarily always a bad thing, some folks i have met here and spent countless hours talking with have nothing listed other than their gender, and location. A filled out profile isn't always the beat all end all, the person and the way they talk to and respond to others is what's most important. Secondly, Full profile or not, it takes some time and effort to get to know others here, or on any other such site. There are quite a number of people here that I have the utmost respect for, and their profile, or lack thereof has no bearing on that. It's the person (or couple) that's most important, not the words or pictures they chose to post on those profiles.

TrimBeardHairyBod
Dec 27, 2008, 5:34 AM
So glad you raised the subject again, Falcon Angel.

To my mind, the blank profile phenomenon is symptomatic of a common attitude nowadays; namely, expecting maximum benefit from minimum effort.

Unimpressed, I am.

boca.openminded
Dec 27, 2008, 2:58 PM
good point....

The funny thing is within seconds from joining this site I started to receive emails from a guy. Of course he said he was looking for exactly the same as I am but when i checked his profile he 1) had no forum inputs (being a member for over 1 yr), 2) had no profile, and 3) on his second email to me he wanted to meet. Of course I never wrote back nor did I ever meet him. Profiles like his are fakes and those I tend to stay away from.

I try to stay real and tell it like it is but the one thing I will not (not yet) is post a picture. I do consider myself bi even though I haven't had much experience but I still do not want my inner circle to find out.

I know the chances are slim but we all have heard of "small world" stories and that scares me.

If you have time, you can check out my profile and give me any input you think is would help me find a bi friend....

FalconAngel
Dec 27, 2008, 6:03 PM
good point....

The funny thing is within seconds from joining this site I started to receive emails from a guy. Of course he said he was looking for exactly the same as I am but when i checked his profile he 1) had no forum inputs (being a member for over 1 yr), 2) had no profile, and 3) on his second email to me he wanted to meet. Of course I never wrote back nor did I ever meet him. Profiles like his are fakes and those I tend to stay away from.

That is the big thing about filling out a profile. A blank profile sends up a huge red flag for us. Particularly when trolls abound on the web.
Any time we get the way too typical "hi, you guys are hot. Let's hook up" type e-mails and the sender has a blank profile, that really puts us on guard.


I try to stay real and tell it like it is but the one thing I will not (not yet) is post a picture. I do consider myself bi even though I haven't had much experience but I still do not want my inner circle to find out.

I know the chances are slim but we all have heard of "small world" stories and that scares me.

If you have time, you can check out my profile and give me any input you think is would help me find a bi friend....

You have a pretty good profile. Pictures help, but not everyone can post one, so when you contact someone to meet, you may want a description in your e-mail to them, so that they can get a good idea of what you may look like, in the event that you do eventually meet.

On the "small world" stories, you can take a page from the swinger's clubs;

"If you meet someone here that you know, then they are here for the same reason you are."
Who is going to out who? realistically, it is unlikely that either of you will do so, if either, or both of you are closeted because then the person who tries to out you has to explain what they were doing on a Bisexual site. Could be rather embarrassing for the person outing you.

It would also be a case of shooting themselves in the foot to out you.

FalconAngel
Dec 27, 2008, 6:26 PM
For the most part I agree with what you had to say in your post, however, I feel the need to post a rebuttal. The fact that someone has a blank profile is not necessarily always a bad thing, some folks i have met here and spent countless hours talking with have nothing listed other than their gender, and location. A filled out profile isn't always the beat all end all, the person and the way they talk to and respond to others is what's most important. Secondly, Full profile or not, it takes some time and effort to get to know others here, or on any other such site. There are quite a number of people here that I have the utmost respect for, and their profile, or lack thereof has no bearing on that. It's the person (or couple) that's most important, not the words or pictures they chose to post on those profiles.

Well, here's the big thing about profiles;

When you are on the hunt or just hanging out in your local area, you decide who you want to meet, based on what you see of them (actions, words, clothing, etc.), well your profile is all of that. Your profile is what people look at to see if they want to meet, hang out, or whatever with you. Being out here on the web, a blank profile makes one mostly invisible to a lot of potentially good people that won't bother because nothing is said about one's self in their profile.

There are so many people out there that complain that no one is interested in them, they have a blank profile and can't understand why no one is interested.
That's like staying at home every night and not understanding why they can't meet people.

Sure, there are some good people out there with blank profiles, but they tend to be mostly ignored by people because of all of the fakes out there that also have blank profiles.

We noticed that you have a complete profile, so clearly you believe that letting people know who you are and what you are about has helped people to find you.
And based on what you have said, you have been lucky with the "blank profile" folks that you have met, but chances are that you have had your share of fakes and flakes, like the majority of us have, that have also had blank profiles.

tg Shannon
Dec 27, 2008, 8:38 PM
Take a look at mine and please tell me what ya think, I accept all critisizims and praises.
thanks
M:flag3::flag3:

FalconAngel
Dec 27, 2008, 9:50 PM
Take a look at mine and please tell me what ya think, I accept all critisizims and praises.
thanks
M:flag3::flag3:

Now that's a profile. A lot to get through, but well worth the time to read through.

Love the pictures of your artwork, too. Really nice.

Only one thing wrong with it; Red Skelton is great, but Abbott and Costello are the Kings of comedy.:bigrin::tongue::rotate:

tg Shannon
Dec 28, 2008, 6:31 AM
Thanks for the review, I figured tacking on the 2nd part was too much but hell, it gets laughs, I rank A & C high on my list as well But Skelton is on top, I'm fond of the Stooges and Gleason as well and the brothers Marx!
thanks again for the feed back!
M:flag4:

Bi_Druid
Dec 28, 2008, 6:42 AM
I myself am of the "fill it out already" school of thought. Blank profiles have more often then not, on many different such personals sites, proved to be mostly spammers.

"oh, I have pics on www.giveusyourcreditdetails.suckers.com, it's totally free"

I have come across blank profiles that have proved to be real honest people, but alas they do themselves few favours by remaining hidden, namely due to the many spammers and trolls out there who use the same blank-profile tactic.

Marked, you do get some spammers who do fill out, but this is rare, as this takes up time the spammers could otherwise use to greater effect phishing account details. Sorry, I am a little cynical at times.

And for photos, namely face pics, I agree with the "who's gonna see, other than other people like yourself?" train of thought. But, perhaps (assuming one hasn't been put in yet on this site, will have to check) a 'private photos' tool for users to use on their profiles would be an idea to programme in. Something where users can still upload pictures, but keep them only visible to those the individual user wishes. There are things like this on other personals sites such as www.gaydar.co.uk , www.thingbox.com , www.dudesnude.com , to name a few I've used myself. Perhaps this way those who are still wary of revealing themselves too soon can still retain some initial anonymity, yet still show themselves to those they chose.
I mean, if when it comes to meeting up with someone, how is one going to know who to keep an eye out for at the rendezvous, if you don't know what they're meant to look like? You'd look and feel a right lemon.

boca.openminded
Dec 28, 2008, 11:13 AM
Now that's a profile. A lot to get through, but well worth the time to read through.

Love the pictures of your artwork, too. Really nice.

Only one thing wrong with it; Red Skelton is great, but Abbott and Costello are the Kings of comedy.:bigrin::tongue::rotate:

Thanks for your input... Being a newbie all the help is greatly appreciated...

Reason why I replied to this "quote" is because I agree with Abbott & Costello are the kings of comedy. The best movie is Abbott & Costello meet Frankenstein.. Not only was this movie hysterical but it also included the original kings of Horror. You have Abbott, Costello, Wolfman (Lon Chaney, Jr0, Frankenstein (Glenn Strange), Dracula (Bela Lugosi), and even the Invisible Man (last minute of the movie).

sorry to go off on the movie tangent. I know its not the title of this thread but I had to put my 2 cents in...

Nick_C
Dec 28, 2008, 12:08 PM
Reason why I replied to this "quote" is because I agree with Abbott & Costello are the kings of comedy. The best movie is Abbott & Costello meet Frankenstein.. Not only was this movie hysterical but it also included the original kings of Horror. You have Abbott, Costello, Wolfman (Lon Chaney, Jr0, Frankenstein (Glenn Strange), Dracula (Bela Lugosi), and even the Invisible Man (last minute of the movie).

I loved those old 1930s horror movies. As a kid in the 80s, my mum used to let me camp out in the living room and stay up late watching them on Channel 4.

curious44
Dec 28, 2008, 12:54 PM
I feel my profile tells quite a bit about me even though I haven't put up any pics. I live in a rural area and have kids and grand kids that don't need to know of my sexual activities. I'm just not willing to take the chance that a local curiosity seeker stumbles across my picture. I don't ask the neighbors what they do in private and they don't need to know what I do, even if it's by accident.

bigulfcpl
Dec 28, 2008, 3:11 PM
They mean a lot to us, as we are trying to meet that elusive bisexual couple in our area. A completed profile goes a long way, if we come across one that is not completed, we simply bypass it.

Nick_C
Dec 28, 2008, 3:33 PM
I'm not overly expressive in my profile, and while it's probably not a big deal to some, for me it's part of being out and proud. That said, I completely understand why some people would be reluctant to put too much personal information on display. I'm at a stage where, if someone who doesn't know were to come across my profile, it wouldn't bother me, but that hasn't always been the case.

So I think people should put as much or as little information in there as they're comfortable with. :)

tg Shannon
Dec 28, 2008, 5:11 PM
Thanks for your input... Being a newbie all the help is greatly appreciated...

Reason why I replied to this "quote" is because I agree with Abbott & Costello are the kings of comedy. The best movie is Abbott & Costello meet Frankenstein.. Not only was this movie hysterical but it also included the original kings of Horror. You have Abbott, Costello, Wolfman (Lon Chaney, Jr0, Frankenstein (Glenn Strange), Dracula (Bela Lugosi), and even the Invisible Man (last minute of the movie).

sorry to go off on the movie tangent. I know its not the title of this thread but I had to put my 2 cents in...




Hey Boca
That is one of the best crossovers in cinema history, comedy and horror with all the greats, I love the old flicks too and have a collection of them almost as big as my porno collection (translation: a hell of alot of em)
Nice to know there are those out there that still apreciate the ground breakers

boca.openminded
Dec 28, 2008, 6:47 PM
Thanks for your input... Being a newbie all the help is greatly appreciated...

Reason why I replied to this "quote" is because I agree with Abbott & Costello are the kings of comedy. The best movie is Abbott & Costello meet Frankenstein.. Not only was this movie hysterical but it also included the original kings of Horror. You have Abbott, Costello, Wolfman (Lon Chaney, Jr0, Frankenstein (Glenn Strange), Dracula (Bela Lugosi), and even the Invisible Man (last minute of the movie).

sorry to go off on the movie tangent. I know its not the title of this thread but I had to put my 2 cents in...

Hey Boca
That is one of the best crossovers in cinema history, comedy and horror with all the greats, I love the old flicks too and have a collection of them almost as big as my porno collection (translation: a hell of alot of em)
Nice to know there are those out there that still apreciate the ground breakers

A few months ago I was looking for that movie poster but was unable to find it. Instead I bought the movie poster of my favorite movie - Young Frankenstein. Ok, its not a horror movie but its an hysterical spoof of the classic Frankenstein..If any of you have not seen this movie then its a must on your list.

This posting is as good as a face picture. If anyone reads it & knows me they probably can put the 1 & 1 together...

FalconAngel
Dec 28, 2008, 8:32 PM
I feel my profile tells quite a bit about me even though I haven't put up any pics. I live in a rural area and have kids and grand kids that don't need to know of my sexual activities. I'm just not willing to take the chance that a local curiosity seeker stumbles across my picture. I don't ask the neighbors what they do in private and they don't need to know what I do, even if it's by accident.

Well, even though you don't have pics, you have a pretty full profile and that is the most helpful thing. People have a snapshot of your personality and interests. That is the most important thing.

FalconAngel
Dec 28, 2008, 8:36 PM
They mean a lot to us, as we are trying to meet that elusive bisexual couple in our area. A completed profile goes a long way, if we come across one that is not completed, we simply bypass it.

99 times out of a hundred, we do the same. On that 1% of blank profiles that we do respond to, it is because they have taken the time to show, in their e-mail, that they actually read our profile, seem to be genuinely interested and have either sent a pic with the contact or offer to do so in the next contact.

curious44
Dec 29, 2008, 6:47 AM
Well, even though you don't have pics, you have a pretty full profile and that is the most helpful thing. People have a snapshot of your personality and interests. That is the most important thing.

I'd like to add; We've lived in our community for close to 40 years and I've been active in the community for almost that long so while I'm certainly not "famous", I am rather well known around here. That's just another reason I'm reluctant to post a picture.
My posts (about 50) also reveal a lot about me. If I'm interested enough to read some one's profile I usually read some or all of their posts. They can reveal even more than a profile because a poster is responding to a variety of subjects.

FalconAngel
Dec 29, 2008, 12:30 PM
I'd like to add; We've lived in our community for close to 40 years and I've been active in the community for almost that long so while I'm certainly not "famous", I am rather well known around here. That's just another reason I'm reluctant to post a picture.

Well, that goes back to our post on the lesson of swingers. Someone who finds you here is here for the same reason.


My posts (about 50) also reveal a lot about me. If I'm interested enough to read some one's profile I usually read some or all of their posts. They can reveal even more than a profile because a poster is responding to a variety of subjects.

And that is very important as well.
Posting, from time to time, is also helpful in letting people know more about you. But posting alone isn't everything, as most of us know. The profile is critical in letting people know enough about you get a better picture of you outside of just posting; particularly for those folks that don't post a lot, don't post at all or don't say much when they do post.

alegrias
Dec 30, 2008, 10:12 AM
I just updated our/ my profile. Hopefully, it will help people to better understand why I keep coming here.

_Joe_
Dec 30, 2008, 11:53 AM
I for one welcome a good profile, and without it I'm just "meh" thinking either your just out for getting yourself off in chat channels, you are in hiding, or worse, you are a robot and sex with robots is wrong.

UnderBiCover
Dec 30, 2008, 1:35 PM
hey, I'm totally new, signed up today, this thread inspired me to put up a profile!


Who is going to out who? realistically, it is unlikely that either of you will do so, if either, or both of you are closeted because then the person who tries to out you has to explain what they were doing on a Bisexual site. Could be rather embarrassing for the person outing you.

you're assuming the other person is bi but....... just because someone creates a profile here (or anywhere) doesn't mean he/she is bi - as I discovered when I signed up, a basic account creates entry into private areas - someone could create a fake account & begin snooping - I know someone personally who experienced this on another site (not me, not one of those "I have a friend" things, but I know the guy...)

a guy/gal might be in the military, law enforcement or similar public position & just cannot risk any kind of accidental exposure, no matter how remote the chance

canuckotter
Dec 30, 2008, 7:42 PM
Personally, I'm here for the forums. I don't chat (except very rarely) and I'm not here to meet anyone or get my rocks off or anything like that... Back when I started, the vast majority of forum regulars were here primarily for the forums and for the wonderfully caring atmosphere, and if they happened to meet someone, well, that was all well and good. Folks who weren't interested in meeting anyone just didn't bother putting up a profile. The only reason I put up the one I've got is because I had enough inquiries that I thought I'd help save people a few minutes of their time. ;)

There seem to be more people here primarily to pick someone up, but I still say if someone's here just to hang out on the forums or hang out in general chat, having a profile doesn't seem all that important.

evilpanda
Dec 30, 2008, 8:08 PM
i'm not trolling or being weird. i'm just lazy.

mtrkrt2000
Jan 9, 2009, 10:35 AM
I have filled out the profile many times and it changes from time to time cause i am never sure of what to write cause u can write somethinmg and it may offend some ppl but i guess that comes with the territory, i have in mine what i like and wish to see but well it is just an add. I was truthful about it all but some u read they r very questionable but in all terms this site has helped me out to let me know i am not a freak and there r lots of ppl out there like me that just needed to know.

rissababynta
Jan 9, 2009, 11:26 AM
A few months ago I was looking for that movie poster but was unable to find it. Instead I bought the movie poster of my favorite movie - Young Frankenstein. Ok, its not a horror movie but its an hysterical spoof of the classic Frankenstein..If any of you have not seen this movie then its a must on your list.

This posting is as good as a face picture. If anyone reads it & knows me they probably can put the 1 & 1 together...

"Sedagive?!"

I know almost every line of that movie...it's great

gotta love "put ze candle...back!"

TaylorMade
Jan 9, 2009, 11:30 AM
"Sedagive?!"

I know almost every line of that movie...it's great

gotta love "put ze candle...back!"

And this entire funny side thread (Recap : Abbot& Costello/ 30's Horror) was brought to you by : A filled out profile.

Personally, I'm more of a Jack Benny girl m'self.

*Taylor*

boca.openminded
Jan 9, 2009, 11:39 AM
"Sedagive?!"

I know almost every line of that movie...it's great

gotta love "put ze candle...back!"

Do NOT get me started with Young Frankenstein quotes...

by the way "What great knockers"

12voltman59
Jan 9, 2009, 11:45 AM
Having been here over three years now---I am one of those who have been active here for a fair amount of time now---I have had lots of stuff in my profile, but now it is rather pared down--but if someone takes the time to check out my many posts on the board---I think I have pretty well put out a great deal about me----I had sort of pared back what I had on my profile there for a time due to the major troll attacks we had there for a time and it seemed that I was one of those who had drawn the ire of the troll----but now have more up than I did for a bit there----for now---my profile pretty well reflects where "I am at" at this point.

still_shy
Jan 9, 2009, 11:47 AM
You know, this thread made me start to wonder if my profile sucks! In the time I've had a profile enabled, I've only had one serious response to it. Would someone please read it and tell me if there's something wrong?

_Joe_
Jan 9, 2009, 12:28 PM
Everyone should put up a profile. and pictures of their nipples very close up so we can't even tell if its a nipple or kneecap.

rissababynta
Jan 9, 2009, 11:11 PM
Do NOT get me started with Young Frankenstein quotes...

by the way "What great knockers"

"Oh, zank you Doctor"

lmao!

**Peg**
Jan 10, 2009, 7:58 AM
You know, this thread made me start to wonder if my profile sucks! In the time I've had a profile enabled, I've only had one serious response to it. Would someone please read it and tell me if there's something wrong?

not a thing wrong IMO, you covered a lot of ground and so I might suggest you shorten it a tad... it MIGHT be a little too long for some folks, but I read it all and I'm str8 (and an editor) :bigrin:

No profile here could be less welcoming than mine - hmm must be the brevity factor that attracts them LOL.

anyhoo, good luck !

still_shy
Jan 10, 2009, 8:20 AM
Thanks Peg :) I appreciate you taking the time to check it out...I'll take out some stuff :)

45&424u
Jan 10, 2009, 8:32 AM
The only thing we haven't put into our profile is pictures and that is only because there is no copy protection. We belong to another Bi site and they have copy protection that will not allow anyone to save or re-post your pic at another site. They also have what is called "free member pics", "paid member pics" and "pin protected pics" . You can decide for yourself what pics are public, what can be seen by paid members and those that can only be accessed with a pin number. Without pic protection, once your pic is on the web, it's on the web. Though the saying only those that are into this lifestyle would see it, thats not necessarily true. If anyone for whatever reason has a grudge with you and has any internet savy, they could find the pics. We have plenty of pics that we could add to our profile, but without copy protection, i don't feel comfortable doing it.

still_shy
Jan 10, 2009, 8:46 AM
That's why the pics I put on here are just your average boring head shots! That way if someone feels the need to save it, they aren't really getting much. When I'm adding pics, I keep in mind that it has the potential to be swiped, and that keeps me from putting boob shots or anything else :)

frikidiki
Jan 16, 2009, 4:51 AM
Personally, I think what matters more than a "good profile" and community involvement is knowing that you're actually made to feel welcome when you do try to be a part of the community. If that doesn't happen, no amount of effort in a profile is even worth putting in.

My advice to those people who are worried about their profiles being adequate to others for this or any other site is, don't bother worrying about it at all. If you look over your profile and you feel it represents you as you would like it to, that ought to be good enough. You can only control how people in general, not as individuals, react to your profile, and even that only goes so far. Just be yourself and only yourself as best as you can in your profile.