Now things are just getting silly

[allbimyself]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7479758.stm

[grayhound]

Thats sad, you shouldn't be forced into inviting someone you don't like or want to be around.

[*pan*]

yep : one word describes this article (stupid ) but then thats how stupid people are getting now a days.:eek:

[allbimyself]

That's rather stupid! I wonder what they're suing over? Emotional distress? LOL or how about low self esteem? LMAO I can't wait until that kid grows up and gets into the real world!What kid? The two that didn't get invited or the one that the fascist school administration screwed over? BTW, did you even read the article? There was no lawsuit mentioned.

[allbimyself]

LMAO I can't wait until that kid grows up and gets into the real world!
I meant the kid that got screwed over.

So, now that you are an adult you just meekly accept injustices that the world throws at you?

[allbimyself]

I'm perfectly calm. I'm just trying to understand what you meant. You insinuated that he shouldn't have complained and that you "can't wait until that kid grows up and gets into the real world." That would seem to imply that you believe that "in the real world" adults don't react to injustice.

Also, who is "they" in the sentence "I just think it's funny that they're doing all of this and making such a huge deal out of it?" The kids parents? The school administration?

I'm not trying to be offensive, but just trying to clarify wtf you are saying.

[allbimyself]

by "they" in that sentence I mean the 2 kids who didn't get invited to his party, and the school.

uhhh what "injustice"? So some kids didn't get invited to a party LOL that's hardly an injustice and they'll live!

Read the article again. The two kids didn't raise a fuss. The teacher did. The injustice is that the teacher confiscated the invitations since he didn't invite everyone (who everyone is defined to be is beyond me. Just in his classroom? The whole damn school? The whole population of Sweden? The school administration is backing the teacher.

IOW, the school is bullying the boy by declaring who he must invite to HIS birthday party. That is the injustice.

[HighEnergy]

I have three girls and I would not allow them to hand out invitations to their parties at school just so this wouldn't happen. I can see it would really suck to watch a kid handing invitations out and be one of only 2 that didn't get one. I have my girls ask their friends for phone numbers and/or addresses and I mail them and call the parents.

It is a little overboard to take the invites, but I can see if the kid was making a big deal out of it, I might do that.

Can you imagine if everyone in your work department was getting together and YOU were not invited? It's just common decency.

[allbimyself]

Maybe it is common decency. However, a school or employer has NO BUSINESS getting involved. THAT is the problem.

[jamieknyc]

Maybe it is common decency. However, a school or employer has NO BUSINESS getting involved. THAT is the problem.

dunno about that, in the schools that my children went to, they did not allow children or their parents to give birthday parties and invite some classmates while excluding others. All birthday parties were required to be extended to the entire class. But my children also did not go to public school.

[Falke]

Ah, I see the PC nazis are working overtime today. This has gone beyond the boundries of silly. I am all for treating people as people, but c'mon.

[darkeyes]

k.. me best m8 gettin hitched in a cuppla weeks.. that mean we havta invite guys 2 'er hen nite?? Yeaa.... rite.. sure it dus....:tong::rolleyes:

[GreenEyedLady(GEL)]

Call me sheltered or maybe because I have no children, but I've never even heard of such a thing. I see some of you have mentioned that you've taken steps to prevent this kind of farcy discrimination to take place, I guess for myself I wouldn't have thought twice about there ever being in issue. Just wouldn't have occurred to me to think of it. You invite who want to come into your home right. What the fuck are we showing these kids ? The world is so terribly messed up anymore. It weighs on my mind so bad these days of how so many things are wrong in this entire world. Were heading towards self destruction . Politics , governments near and far - all going to shit. Religion vs. science , they scare the shit out of me because I can't figure out anymore who is right , is the scientist or is it the fundamentals of all gillion different freakin religions saying this is the way, no , this is pathway to save your soul. Not to mention were killing each other for all those same things. Things really don't have to be so bad. Call me naive, but im not. I know perfectly well it's all just wishful thinking.

Yes ----- I've join off the deep end lol But what fuck man ? What the fuck is going on that an 8 year old boy on his special day can't invite just his buddies to his birthday party without it becoming an issue for parliament and world news ?

Were self-destructing.

[allbimyself]

dunno about that, in the schools that my children went to, they did not allow children or their parents to give birthday parties and invite some classmates while excluding others. All birthday parties were required to be extended to the entire class. But my children also did not go to public school.Just because your kid's school did it doesn't make it right.

The policy itself may have merits but calling what that 8 year old boy did "discrimination" is complete BS. Where do you draw the line? He didn't invite kids in other classes, so that would be age discrimination. Didn't invite kids from the next town, more discrimination! Hell, I wasn't invited either! He hates Americans!

Let me give an analogy here: A friend of mine a few years ago went out with this guy. She really liked him, he seemed very charming. On their second date they had sex. That was the last she saw of him. She was hurt but a bit wiser. One day she was telling a friend about it in her dorm. Her RA overheard the conversation, and, unbidden, remarked, "You were raped!" My friend looked at the RA as if she were insane. The RA continued, "You had sex with him only because you expected a relationship. He had sex with you under false pretenses, therefore you were raped."

The woman my friend had originally been talking to had, in fact, been raped. She slapped the RA across the face. "How dare you belittle what I went through by calling that rape!"

How dare that school administration belittle people that suffer REAL discrimination by calling what that boy did "discrimination."

How dare they label that little boy as a bigot.

[vittoria]

:banghead:

[jamieknyc]

I wasn't advocating that public schools should do it.

My children went to Jewish schools that set firm rules of conduct for such things, one of which was that they did not allow the exclusion of children from birthday parties to which classmates were invited. But I recognize that in the public schools, it would be considered an infringement on the liberties of the child and their parents to do that.

I do find it a little ironic that militant anti-PC types who normally holler that there is no such thing as a constitutional right of privacy suddenly turn into the biggest advocates of that same idea when it suits their own political point of view.

[darkeyes]

I wasn't advocating that public schools should do it.

My children went to Jewish schools that set firm rules of conduct for such things, one of which was that they did not allow the exclusion of children from birthday parties to which classmates were invited. But I recognize that in the public schools, it would be considered an infringement on the liberties of the child and their parents to do that.

I do find it a little ironic that militant anti-PC types who normally holler that there is no such thing as a constitutional right of privacy suddenly turn into the biggest advocates of that same idea when it suits their own political point of view.
.. an how sum usually pc types or approximations of it wudn hav ne 1 wudn hav sum peeps 2 ther party no matta wot the law sed.. me for instance...:bigrin:

[allbimyself]

I do find it a little ironic that militant anti-PC types who normally holler that there is no such thing as a constitutional right of privacy suddenly turn into the biggest advocates of that same idea when it suits their own political point of view.Who are you referring to here?

[Doggie_Wood]

You know, I think that the teacher should be repremanded.
If the boy passed the invites out during a break or recess, I see no problem. However, being on school property, the teacher did have the right to see what was being passed out, but not confiscate because of two kids who didn't get one.
And, furthermore, if the B-Day Party was to be on private property (not at the school) then the boy has every reight to invite who he wants and deny an invite to those he does not want to attend the party. The artical didn't specify as to where the party was to be held.
That is unless Swedwn has some very f*cked up laws.
Just my :2cents:

:doggie:

[FalconAngel]

PC is the venue of idiots.

One should, whenever possible be polite and considerate of others, but fact of the matter is that we will always come across people that we don't like or develop issues with.

Children, while great at finding peace between themselves, are not immune to the issues of having friends become enemies or just not liking some other kids.

If a child wants to have a birthday party and not invite certain classmates, then that is the perogative of the child. No teacher or school official has the right to tell a child what children they may or may not invite to a birthday party.

There's too much interference from the PC police already; to the point of making our society afraid to speak, freely, what they think because some one or another might get their poor little feelings hurt.

We are adults and need to toughen up about that sort of thing.

Those of us that are parents need to teach our children that the world is not full of sunshine and daisies and need to teach them to deal with disappointments instead of allowing schools and government officials to teach them something which is a lie and leaves them unprepared for real life.

[csrakate]

If the child handed out the invitations during class time (which he did)....and if the child purposely excluded two children(which he did), then the school DOES have the right to intervene. School is not the proper place to conduct such an event and if that event is disruptive in anyway to the harmony of the classroom, then they have the right to put a stop to it. When my kids attended school, it was very clearly stated that invitations were NOT to be handed out unless the entire class was invited. Otherwise the students were instructed to deliver said invitations off of school property. I don't think that is asking too much.

[allbimyself]

If the child handed out the invitations during class time (which he did)....and if the child purposely excluded two children(which he did), then the school DOES have the right to intervene. School is not the proper place to conduct such an event and if that event is disruptive in anyway to the harmony of the classroom, then they have the right to put a stop to it. When my kids attended school, it was very clearly stated that invitations were NOT to be handed out unless the entire class was invited. Otherwise the students were instructed to deliver said invitations off of school property. I don't think that is asking too much.

Assuming that the school had previously stated the policy they should have reiterated the policy rather than labeling an 8 year old as a bigot. This story never would have seen the light of day if the school had NOT said he was being discriminatory.

Granted, he was, in the true definition of that word. He was selecting who he invited to his party, by definition that requires discrimination or he'd have to invite everyone on the planet (of course, then he'd be discriminating against animals and aliens).

The problem I have is that the school handled it in a heavy handed, holier than thou way. Rather than informing the child that he could not hand out the invitations on school grounds, they confiscated them and accused him of discrimination in the ugly sense of that word.

And I take exception to the claim that handing out invitations "is disruptive." If he had invited the classmates he wanted to invite outside of class, the potential for disruption in class is still there. The boys that weren't invited would be just as likely to raise a fuss IN class. If you think they wouldn't have found out about it just because the invitations weren't distributed in class you are sadly mistaken.

Again, too much is being read into this story. I base my opinion on what was said by the school administration. They didn't claim it was disruptive. They didn't claim they had a written policy. Their ONLY claim was that he didn't invite everyone and that is discriminatory.

In case y'all missed it, here it is again:

The boy's school says he has violated the children's rights and has complained to the Swedish Parliament.

The school, in Lund, southern Sweden, argues that if invitations are handed out on school premises then it must ensure there is no discrimination.
See it this time? The SCHOOL complained to the Swedish Parliament that the boy violated the rights of the two boys he didn't invite!

[jamieknyc]

Okay, taking it to the national parliament was a little over the top. But in principle, they would not be wrong to forbid this sort of thing.

[Doggie_Wood]

Pfffsshhhht!! Guff Haw!!

[tallkerri]

does the term "Get a grip" fit this one or is it just me??????