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parkerbi
Feb 1, 2008, 12:11 AM
there have been various studies that show various types of porn to different men and women, who all self identify as gay straight or bi, and the the physical effects on their body (erection, lubrication etc) apparently women are turned by every type of porn, and men are either/or (either turned on my naked women or naked men not both equally- almost all the self identified "bisexual" men having a physical reaction to just men).
what do you think about this?

It's not my opinion. Just got this from other site and share with you.:three:

FalconAngel
Feb 1, 2008, 2:40 AM
Those studies are just plain crap.

As a Bi man, I can honestly say that some gay porn turn me on and some gay porn has no effect on me.

Some straight porn turns me on and some has no effect on me.

Some Bi porn turns me on and some others has no effect on me.

Based on those "researchers", I must not exist.....and yet, I do exist.

Most of those "studies" are designed to produce a specific result.

Real research sets up the testing parameters and looks to see what happens, then retries the test on various different subjects to see what the results show.

They do not set up the parameters with the intention of finding a specific, set goal or result.

shameless agitator
Feb 1, 2008, 1:47 PM
These sound pretty bogus to me as well. Before I could even begin to take these studies seriously, I would need to know who conducted them, & perhaps more importantly, who funded them.

bisexualinsocal
Feb 1, 2008, 1:53 PM
All I can say is that I am bisexual. I've learned to disregard "studies" long ago. Science knows very little.

Gatodoabc
Feb 1, 2008, 4:07 PM
In my opinion everyone is bi in certain degree... (variable with the amount of alcohol) :)

allbimyself
Feb 1, 2008, 4:59 PM
Why do people keep bringing up these "studies?" They've been talked to death in other threads, where links have been posted to critiques that show it's all a bunch of hogwash.

BiphobiaFighter
Feb 1, 2008, 5:16 PM
All I can say is that I am bisexual. I've learned to disregard "studies" long ago. Science knows very little.
You would find that we know quite a lot. These studies here are not at all representative of the larger body of research on bisexuality. These studies are anomalies. Trust me, science is overwhelmingly on our side.

DiamondDog
Feb 1, 2008, 5:39 PM
Why do people keep bringing up these "studies?" They've been talked to death in other threads, where links have been posted to critiques that show it's all a bunch of hogwash.

Allbimyself-Agreed.

The study has been written about countless times on this site and even as the main "article" twice.

If we actually had a good admin/moderator of this site he/she/they could compile them into one huge thread that people could add to instead of making new topics about it all the time.

Gatordoc-What makes you say that? Just because a gay man is drunk it doesn't mean he's going to somehow want sex with women all of a sudden, same thing with hetero men wanting sex with men. :rolleyes:

Also who actually believes the whole "I was drunk" or I was on something excuse? I've been VERY drunk at times and had sex and I've never used it as an excuse for the gender of the person I was with or it's not like I didn't know who/what I was doing then while drunk.

nothings5d
Feb 1, 2008, 5:45 PM
I don't know about the studies on women, but most of the studies of this type conducted on men that I've heard of either show the men two videos, one containing two women and one containing two men, or they show them three, one containing two women one containing one man and one woman and one containing two men.

I myself, have no interest in lesbian porn and as such it does nothing to arouse me. Therefore, according to what they would perceive from my state of arousal I only get aroused when there's a man on screen, so if I were to participate in one of these studies their testing protocol would indicate that I am actually gay.

The problem with these studies is that it is impossible to simulate the situations that people find themselves in in real life through pornography. In real life watching two women having sex, even if I knew I wouldn't be joining them, would arouse me, but in pornography it doesn't, probably because to me it almost always seems fake.

There is simply a fundamental flaw in the testing procedures that have been used. Unfortunately I can't think of a way to change the testing protocols to something closer to real life unless prostitution suddenly becomes legal.:rolleyes:

bisexualinsocal
Feb 1, 2008, 7:00 PM
You would find that we know quite a lot. These studies here are not at all representative of the larger body of research on bisexuality. These studies are anomalies. Trust me, science is overwhelmingly on our side.

No, science really does not know much nor will it ever when it comes to sexuality and the human spirit. It will perpetually offer analyses after analyses, and theory after theory, but the closest it will come to "knowing" something is in "consensus science", which is not the same thing as "knowing".

CT Nudist Guy
Feb 1, 2008, 9:46 PM
Braeking news ----- There is a newer study, just released.

I watched a "hetro" Porn & got excited.
I watched a "gay" porn & got excited.
I watched a "les" porn & got excited.
Then I watched a "bi" porn & got excited.

So, using the latest computer driven tabulation and computation - that means .... I got excited! It does not mean I am hetro, gay, les or bi. It does mean I have at least some functional organs & sufficient blood flow.

A "study" can be done by anyone and report any results. I would want to know alot more about a so called "study" and who conducted it before I gave any validity at all to the results. I generally do not give much weight to one study from any source, no matter what the methodology is.

Now, back to my own "study" :)

BreeIsMe
Feb 2, 2008, 4:33 AM
for every study finding. there is an equal but opposite study!!!

diB4u
Feb 2, 2008, 7:57 AM
for every study finding. there is an equal but opposite study!!!

Bree totally agree...


I find straight porn sometimes good
I find man on man porn sometimes good
I find mmf porn sometimes good
I find woman on woman porn sometimes good


But then that depends on my moods...;)

sdnaustin
Feb 6, 2008, 12:23 AM
For me, I like all porn, but do find gay porn more appealling. But also, I think being married, I get all the straight sex satisfaction I need there. But I have already decided that should the unthinkable happen and my wife and I no loger are together at any point, I'm only going to date men.

alaskacouple
Feb 6, 2008, 2:37 AM
Not real sure how all of this studying is being done, but if it were me "they" were studying I figure "they" might be a bit disappointed. The thought of "them" measuring my privates while I watched porn would...ummm, leave me a bit un-aroused regardless of the subject matter.

Now if left to my own studies - I have measurable results when watching women with women...same results for men with men...again, same results observed with a man and a woman...and excellent results have been noted in MMF situations.

bigirl_inwv
Feb 6, 2008, 9:53 AM
This is a psychological study. It has the same faults that any other type of behavioral study has. It's very difficult to scientifically "measure" any type of "feeling." The biggest problem is...people lie. People try and conform to social norms. This had to be a controlled variable study...which means it was done in a lab. If people are conscious that a certain thing that is being studied...they are going to lean more towards what THEY want their outcome to be. The only way to truly learn about this is to do a naturalistic study...which is impossible to do without one's knowledge...well...because that's illegal. So I'd take these results with a grain of salt. I don't think that this study is anywhere near representative of the way the majority of people are. But that's just my :2cents:

the mage
Feb 6, 2008, 3:32 PM
there have been various studies that show various types of porn to different men and women, who all self identify as gay straight or bi, and the the physical effects on their body (erection, lubrication etc) apparently women are turned by every type of porn, and men are either/or (either turned on my naked women or naked men not both equally- almost all the self identified "bisexual" men having a physical reaction to just men).
what do you think about this?

It's not my opinion. Just got this from other site and share with you.:three:


Statistics can be used to show amazing things in wonderful ways.....
Talking to real people around you will get you insights needed to get laid;)

thesea
Apr 25, 2008, 8:27 AM
face up 2 the facts youre gay and afraid to admit it and only married a woman because youre a closeted gay man and not bisexual.

Why are you so confrontational!?

What do you know about this person or the relationship and how will these comments help?

jo69guy
Apr 25, 2008, 12:21 PM
Porn in general used to arouse me. Now I find most of it just boring. It all has the same effect if I am in the mood to watch it. I am happily bi, and if I'm in the mood for it, any kind will do.........:2cents:

wolfcamp
Apr 25, 2008, 3:25 PM
Gatordoc-What makes you say that? Just because a gay man is drunk it doesn't mean he's going to somehow want sex with women all of a sudden, same thing with hetero men wanting sex with men. :rolleyes:


Drunkeness only removes inhibitions of tendencies that were there to start with.

wolfcamp
Apr 25, 2008, 3:44 PM
Allbimyself-Agreed.

The study has been written about countless times on this site and even as the main "article" twice.

If we actually had a good admin/moderator of this site he/she/they could compile them into one huge thread that people could add to instead of making new topics about it all the time.

In my relatively short time as a member here, I have seen hardly any topic that hasn't been hashed and rehashed. How many times have anal sex, masterbation and penis size been thead topics? If we made a rule about no more redundant topics, we would have to shut down the forums. :tong:

diB4u
Apr 25, 2008, 4:22 PM
Drunkeness only removes inhibitions of tendencies that were there to start with.


LOL im a prime example, alchole makes me less shy, makes me more daring to have sex or even flirt with someone.:tongue:

DiamondDog
Apr 25, 2008, 5:29 PM
Drunkeness only removes inhibitions of tendencies that were there to start with.

Yes that's true. I've been told that drunk actions are sober thoughts.

It just bugs me when gay and some bi men fetishize and fantasize about hetero men to the point where it's so ingrained in them that they'll say things like, OMG I was drunk with a "straight" guy and he let me blow him!!!!

Or things like, so yeah this "straight" guy was horny there was no pussy around, and he let me blow him!

Then there's the old joke,
Q-How do you turn a straight man gay?

A-A six pack of beer!

I feel like asking them, so as gay men when you're drunk or excessively horny and there aren't any men around and a woman is coming onto you does that mean that you let women blow you, you give them oral sex, or fuck them?

That's why I don't really post/hang out at this one gay/bi male porn message board because it's all stuff like that, most of it fantasy, or people will just post about how they covet heterosexual men.

vittoria
Apr 25, 2008, 11:23 PM
Braeking news ----- There is a newer study, just released.

I watched a "hetro" Porn & got excited.
I watched a "gay" porn & got excited.
I watched a "les" porn & got excited.
Then I watched a "bi" porn & got excited.

So, using the latest computer driven tabulation and computation - that means .... I got excited! It does not mean I am hetro, gay, les or bi. It does mean I have at least some functional organs & sufficient blood flow.

A "study" can be done by anyone and report any results. I would want to know alot more about a so called "study" and who conducted it before I gave any validity at all to the results. I generally do not give much weight to one study from any source, no matter what the methodology is.

Now, back to my own "study" :)


Rockin my sox, one foot at a time

jem_is_bi
Apr 25, 2008, 11:27 PM
Yes that's true. I've been told that drunk actions are sober thoughts.

It just bugs me when gay and some bi men fetishize and fantasize about hetero men to the point where it's so ingrained in them that they'll say things like, OMG I was drunk with a "straight" guy and he let me blow him!!!!

Or things like, so yeah this "straight" guy was horny there was no pussy around, and he let me blow him!

Then there's the old joke,
Q-How do you turn a straight man gay?

A-A six pack of beer!

I feel like asking them, so as gay men when you're drunk or excessively horny and there aren't any men around and a woman is coming onto you does that mean that you let women blow you, you give them oral sex, or fuck them?

That's why I don't really post/hang out at this one gay/bi male porn message board because it's all stuff like that, most of it fantasy, or people will just post about how they covet heterosexual men.


I am a male and more gay than straight. But, I have no use for alcohol with sex. I enjoy a drink to relax or when out with friends, but not for sex. I love sex only when I am completely sober. Not alcohol, no drugs and best after a good night sleep. I have NO desire for drunken males or females no matter what! I am not someones last resort to masturbation. That is a total turn-off. If you’re sober, you are not going to be disappointed. If your not, your hand will have to be sufficient.

the sacred night
May 4, 2008, 9:54 PM
All I can say is that I am bisexual. I've learned to disregard "studies" long ago. Science knows very little.

I think science knows a lot, but I don't think everything that calls itself science is science. For example, some people are not into porn period. Some like to watch different things than they like to do. Some are attracted to the sexes in different ways, and so one way might manifest differently in the body and the researcher's instruments might not pick it up (I am like this- men and women produce physically different types of arousal in my body). Sometimes the measuring devices are set up to measure only one specific change in the body, and arousal is a whole set of changes. There aer also mental aspects to it that you can't really measure. Also, putting a device on your privates just might dampen your arousal a bit. Plus, I don't know about other bi individuals, but I'm usually in the mood for one sex for days, weeks, or months at a time, and then it will switch to the other, and then there are rare times I'm in the mood for either or both, so if I was in the study, the outcome would depend on what day they did it. There are so many variables they haven't accounted for that you can't really trust it.

wutheringheights
May 22, 2008, 3:05 PM
There seem to be many 'scientists' with spectacularly naive ideas about sexuality and gender. How does a person's responses to porn prove anything blankly and generally about their sexuality? Response to images and response to direct physical contact/stimulation are not the same thing. So-called 'science', when it attempts to study sexuality, seems to typically proceed from officialized, legalistic definitions of sexuality which leads it to some very circular reasoning and unreliable (not to mention unimaginative) conclusions. My feeling is that there are no 'answers' with regard to sexuality. After all, the (culturally specific) concept of 'sexuality' is essentially a rationalization of sensations, emotions and associations that can't effectively be rationalized. The joy of sex lies precisely in its transcendence of 'identity'.

Sparks
May 22, 2008, 7:34 PM
If all men ere truthful, they would admit too having bisexusl tendencies.:2cents: