The overly hetero-guy.

[nprmatthew]

I have a theory. Have any of you ever known a dude that is just over the top hetero. Like no matter what and no matter where he has to say something about banging a chick or liking tits. He always wants to tell you about what he would do that kind of hot chick at the McDonalds. Anyway...

I think that dude has some weiner issues. He's either looking at gay porn and feels bad about it or is wondered that people know he likes the weiners and has to make damn sure that everyone knows he likes vagina.

It reminds of all those religous zealots who preach about the evils of the homos and then get caught doing meth and being banged by a dude...Rev. Ted Haggard...I'm looking at you.

What do you think?

- matthew

[LoveLion]

Interesting question. I would have to agree with you about the overly-hetro gay having some insecurity issues. I dont know if it is homosexual feelings that he cant cope with or something else. It could be insecurity due to a bad experience he has had with a women or man, it could be something like he realized a family member or friend he was very close to was gay (this happened to someone I knew and they became much like this guy you describe) or it could be something as simple as he feels inadiquite with the size of his penis. Usually when a man acts like this it is not just an naturally over pumped sex drive, it usually does have something to do with a kind of insecurity that he tries to compensate from or "overcome" by trying to prove to the world that his is a very heterosexual manly man.

[jedinudist]

Sometimes, I think Shakespeare said it best in Hamlet...

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." - From Hamlet

Sometimes, the person who is making the most noise about NOT being bisexual or gay is someone who is, or feels attractions to the same sex and is trying to convince themselves more than they are trying to convince anyone else.

I went through that stage myself, where I talked about females constantly and elaborated on my exploits with them. In retrospect, I was trying to convince myself that I was heterosexual and not bisexual or gay.

And unfortunately, sometimes it's just over-zealous hatred. :(

[twodelta]

Sometimes, the person who is making the most noise about NOT being bisexual or gay is someone who is, or feels attractions to the same sex and is trying to convince themselves more than they are trying to convince anyone else. :(

Very good point jedinudist. I've known both a guy and gal that fit into this catagory. Unfortunately, I worked with them, so it was impossible to escape their borish comments. - Dave

[gh05t]

I'm glad someone else thinks they have issues too :bigrin:
I try to be as ambiguous as I can be without being completely out around them, even to the point of flirting, just to make them feel real uneasy!

[Daniel1395]

I have a lot of friends like that, who are forever talking about girls they would like to have sex with. Its kind of annoying really Just hearing them say things like that all the time.

It’s an Interesting idea, I never thought that they might act like that because of insecurity issues but I think in some cases you could be right.

[PolyLoveTriad]

OK ok ok, saying that someone who is over the top hetero has to have issues with with liking guys, is kind of like saying that flambouyant gay men who are way over the top gay have issues with liking women. LOL!?!

Some guys are just really like that. I have a friend who is always going on about chicks he see's and is with etc, and yeah its totally annoying, but trust me, he has no issues with liking guys. He is for sure 100% straight. He just has the kind of personality you wanna smack him upside the head and tell him to shut the heck up! LOL Ok Have a great day lol

[yoyo4u]

Yeah, I used to work with many of them. I guess they acted "overly hetero" in front of each other.

I know I did. (Not that I didn't want to bang the hot chick at McDonald's!) :tongue:

But, I guess it starts at home and it starts with Mommy dearest!

You as a boy are not expected to hug, or kiss your friend and you definitely cannot cry! After all you are a big boy! Remember?

So, just before you'd realize you have empathy, sympathy, and those warm and fuzzy feelings, you are reprogramed.

What do you think?
yoyo

[biwords]

It would be easy to subject this to experiment. Just hang out where these guys hang out, and walk up to the biggest, most hypermasculine -alpha of them while he's in mid-brag, and ask him if he'd like to suck you off. Do this maybe a dozen times in various locales, then come back and report on what happened.

[TaylorMade]

It's hard to strike a balance for a guy, and I feel for men on a whole in that respect. It's hard for straight men be platonically intimate w/o the label of "gay". . .and that leaves bi men with a unique perspective, if you think about it.

I don't blame society as much as I think that is how men (for the most part) are. There are noted exceptions, no doubt.

*TM*

[DiamondDog]

I've seen people who are overy "homosexual" and notice men in public to the point where you can realize that they're going over the top and doing it on purpose, and they claim that they're so "gay" and then you ask them what their type of woman is and they don't say "well, none. I'm not sexually attracted to women", or they notice a woman's body and say "wow she has a great ass!".

[12voltman59]

I do think there is more than a little truth in the idea that when someone is "over the top hetero"---they are probably compensating for the fact they do have desires to be with others of the same sex---they just cannot face up to that fact.

I do remember when I was young and people who start making homophobic remarks and I did not join in gleefully--I got the response of "oh--maybe you are gay too!! and then say I was a "fucking faggot."

As a kid--at first I did not know how to react---I would just be quiet but later--I used the same basic response that I developed when white friends would say things about "those goddammed niggers!!!"

I heard a similiar sort of response that I was a "nigger lover." I stopped that by going into a fake tirade that "I am a stupid fighting Mick who loves not only niggers, but Spics, Kikes, Pollacks, Beaners, Rag Heads, Wops, Injuns and whoever else I can think of!!!!


I did do that on a few occassions with some people of the same age--

That kind of shut em up pretty quick!!!

For the gay bashers--I was not so brash--I would say: "Hey---gays don't bother me. I am not too bad looking of a guy, but I still kinda need all the help I can get with getting chicks. I want to go up and shake the hand of every gay I meet--especially because they all do seem to look better than most of us straight guys--I want to thank them for being one less guy that I have to compete with---hell--- I want most other guys to be gay!!!!"

They never knew what to say to that.

I had this thought today about someting though--gays always do argue that "gayness" is something we are born with so that must make it a genetic thing right? If that is the case--why is the gay genetic code passed down since by definition--gays don't have sex with women to have offspring to pass the "gay genes" on down the line or would lesbians be able to procreate either--at least they could not before modern insemination techologies and techniques were developed.

Hell--for a genetic based desire for having sex with the same sex--lots of folks throughout the history of humankind must have been having same sex-sex in order for it to have developed and people still wanted to have sex with the other sex too--it must be--BISEXUALITY is something deeply encoded in our genetic makeup!!!!

Just one of those things that makes ya go "UUUUUUMMMMMM????"

[flexuality]

I had this thought today about someting though--gays always do argue that "gayness" is something we are born with so that must make it a genetic thing right? If that is the case--why is the gay genetic code passed down since by definition--gays don't have sex with women to have offspring to pass the "gay genes" on down the line or would lesbians be able to procreate either--at least they could not before modern insemination techologies and techniques were developed.

Hell--for a genetic based desire for having sex with the same sex--lots of folks throughout the history of humankind must have been having same sex-sex in order for it to have developed and people still wanted to have sex with the other sex too--it must be--BISEXUALITY is something deeply encoded in our genetic makeup!!!!

Just one of those things that makes ya go "UUUUUUMMMMMM????"

Good point!! :)

I have become more and more convinced that bisexuality is the natural condition of the human species and that under that "umbrella" term there is a wide variety of preference - the same as there is a wide variety of preference as to who we enjoy as friends or the types of people we like to work with etc, etc.

I have never bought into the "gay gene" vs. choice debate. I always figured they were asking the wrong question.

I laughed when I read your post cuz you bring up a really good point! If it was genetic, then how the heck did it get passed on?? LOL! :) :tong: :)

[darkeyes]

Good point!! :)

I have become more and more convinced that bisexuality is the natural condition of the human species and that under that "umbrella" term there is a wide variety of preference - the same as there is a wide variety of preference as to who we enjoy as friends or the types of people we like to work with etc, etc.

I have never bought into the "gay gene" vs. choice debate. I always figured they were asking the wrong question.

I laughed when I read your post cuz you bring up a really good point! If it was genetic, then how the heck did it get passed on?? LOL! :) :tong: :)

Me not more convinced Flex, me damn sure it is the natural condition of the species.. yet another tool by which ancient man controlled the masses. Millenia of conditionin by the powerful 2 keep us in line... the rarity genetically is probably those without the bi gene an that they hav been lookin at things from the wrong angle!

Prob Tescos has a book on it..send Sol down! :bigrin:

[flexuality]

Me not more convinced Flex, me damn sure it is the natural condition of the species.. yet another tool by which ancient man controlled the masses. Millenia of conditionin by the powerful 2 keep us in line... the rarity genetically is probably those without the bi gene an that they hav been lookin at things from the wrong angle!

Prob Tescos has a book on it..send Sol down! :bigrin:

Not so ancient...it didn't really become the tool (weapon might be more accurate!) until the assemblage (is that a word? lol...it is now! :tong: ) of the bible in 325 AD.

I agree with you tho! :)

Oh...an I can't send Sol to Tescos....he's at work! :tong:

[Skater Boy]

It would be easy to subject this to experiment. Just hang out where these guys hang out, and walk up to the biggest, most hypermasculine -alpha of them while he's in mid-brag, and ask him if he'd like to suck you off. Do this maybe a dozen times in various locales, then come back and report on what happened.

OK, will do. I'll let you know the results when I get out of hospital! ;)