411 Magazine: BIPHOBIA at it's worst!

[glantern954]

The following was published in a local gay nightlife magazine here in S. Florida called 411.


Bye, Bi Myth

Hey Woody!
I have a friend who insists he's bisexual, but I've never seen him
with a woman. Seen him with plenty of guys though!
Don't you think he's a little delusional when he describes himself
as "bisexual"? At best, it's wishful thinking; at worst it's
internal homophobia. I'm getting sick of my friend claiming he's
bisexual when he only goes to gay bars. How do I get him to admit
he's gay?

Dear Tired:
Most people think we fall into three categories: Gay, Straight or
Lying. In all probability, your friend is the third of the three.
Research backs me up on this. Several studies have shown that male
bisexuality is very rare. In the latest research, scientists put
penis sensors on gay, straight and bisexual men and gauged the
differences in their arousal when they watched straight porn versus
gay porn.
Guess what happened? The gay guys were aroused by gay porn but not
straight porn. The hetero guys were aroused by straight porn but not
gay porn. The guys who self-identified as bisexual: They were almost
exclusively aroused by one or the other, usually by gay porn.
This latest study is the largest of several reports confirming the
same results. Research on sexual orientation has almost always been
based on self-reporting. That's why the average penis size in
Kinsey's studies is about six inches while the latest studies show
it's closer to five.
Why the difference? Kinsey asked men to measure themselves and
report the results. Later studies had a third party doing the
measuring (no, it wasn't me, though believe me, I TRIED).
Let's face it, men lie. They lie about their penis size, and they
lie about who they like to screw. Now before I get hate mail from
the three genuinely bisexual men in America, I don't think having
sex with women makes you bisexual anymore than a straight guy having
sex with another man makes him gay.
Of course gay men can tuck a woman. All we have to do is think about
her brother. And of course straight men can get it up for a gay man.
All they have to do is think about his sister.

I remember watching a porn video shoot where these two hot guys were
getting fucked so hard the cameraman was bouncing on the floor. The
director says to me, "You know the guys getting tucked are straight,
right?"
I scoffed. Come on, I thought, their dicks are hard and they are
getting pounded into ground beef. The director takes my arm, moves
me across the room and points to the videos the guys were watching
as they were getting screwed. It was straight porn!
So, no, just because you can get it up for a wide variety of species
doesn't make you bisexual. It makes you a dildo. For me, the
true "definition" of orientation isn't who you shag but who you're
in love with.
You can fake shagging; you can't fake the racing pulse, the
obsessive thinking and the overwhelming desire to connect
emotionally, physically, romantically and spiritually with another
man.
So if you want your friend to stop talking about bisexuality, then
buy a penis sensor and show him different kinds of porn. His mind
may be in denial, but his body ain't.
Personally, I think bisexuality in men is a transitory desire rather
than a distinct orientation. Sort of like a vegetarian who every
once in a while digs into a slab of ribs.

Woody Miller needwood@mac.com.

[Rhuth]

I would love to write a retort to him, but what do you say to someone who so obviously will not change their mind? He sites one study that has been peer reviewed as faulty, when there are overwhelmingly many more studies that prove the opposite. Obviously he wants to be closed minded. The problem is that he is preaching that others should close their minds as well. To whom do we send our emails to try and undo the damage he has caused?

[Tynary]

That is the most offensive thing I've ever seen. Some one should tell those mother f***ers to watch their mouths or all the bisexuals are gonna turn into extreme homophobes. What if you have been in love with a man and a woman. God cnt u send the person who wrote that s*** an offensive letter plz? better yet hurt them. God that made me mad. oooo I'm sooo gay and proud and that gives me the right to kno everything and be a scientist and tell peeps wat they r. f*** that bastard good god.
hes bi friend should stop being his friend and get a bunch of real bis to beat him up. I h8t people like that. Being tld u dnt exist is worse than being treated badly cas of ur sexuality. In a perfect world I'd say everyone except everyone but if people want war then I'll resort to saying gays and straights are kidding themselves and everyone is a bisexual. I have never been to mad and filled with rage. I need to beat something. i h8t that!!!!

[Tynary]

sorry about the rant I'm a really hot blooded person with firm views and I'm a proud bisexula and i promote bisexuality.

[Herbwoman39]

It may not do any good, but I emailed him. He may be set in his opinions, but he still needs to hear from those who are upset at his closed-minded attitude.

How else is he supposed to know that he is being offensive?

[glantern954]

The writers" name and email address is:

Woody Miller
needwood@mac.com

Still confirming publication and editor contact information.


I would love to write a retort to him, but what do you say to someone who so obviously will not change their mind? He sites one study that has been peer reviewed as faulty, when there are overwhelmingly many more studies that prove the opposite. Obviously he wants to be closed minded. The problem is that he is preaching that others should close their minds as well. To whom do we send our emails to try and undo the damage he has caused?

[miamiuu]

WTF penis sensors to tell arousal. Is this some scifi erotic porno movie? I think the problem is he needs to let his friend do what he wants and not try to turn him gay. Just shows alot of gay people spend too much worrying about other peoples lives. Kind of funny cus im in miami and one of the clubs down here is having an event called hallowqueen night :rolleyes: I saw that and was like that type of title itself alienates a large part of the population that may had want to check the party out. You will never see me going to a party named something like that.

[mistymockingbird]

I am quite simply amazed at the ignorance and arrogance of that author. I will be writing to him once I cool down enough to argue coherently. Wow.

[wanderingrichard]

GGGGGGGGGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hang the pissant by it's tiny "manhood" in the bright sun til it withers dies falls off and dries out...what a crock of shit.

just goes to show you can always skew any test or survey result by stacking the deck in your favor from the get go to prove your self centered ASS umptions are correct....

GL, please keep diggin for the other info and follow up with here.. i wanna give these peices of shit a flame mail they'll never forget.

[ezervet]

You know, i read these things, and i recognize that they're wrong and all, but i can't seem to get myself worked up into an emotional froth about it. maybe i should. the thing with people's opinions about GLBT issues is, it's rare that getting mad helps at all. it is tough sometimes, but rationality is the name of the game, i think; whether you're dealing with a know-it-all gay man, or a pompous bible thumper.

[Brian]

Obviously "Woody" needs to get out of his enclave more.

- Drew :paw:

[JohnnyV]

It's a testament to the power of bad and dishonest research. Bailey's study that got run up in the New York Times is going to hover around for years. As for this Woody guy, he's a familiar character. I hate to admit it, but attitudes like his have basically caused me to drop any political commitment to gay rights. I just don't think I should fight for their rights when people like this guy, and Dan Savage and Wayne Besen and the rest of the biphobes, enjoy such popular support from homosexuals, all the while scapegoating us for the fact that their lives are miserable when that's not even our fault. The fact that I enjoy a good vagina has damned little to do with their pathetic little fishbowl of little gay men in little gay clothes, with their little gay friends and little gay ideas.

J

[Tigerguy193]

I've never understood why some gay people act this way about bisexuals. They're really setting back the whole GLBT cause.

Gays are often accused of trying to recruit people over to their lifestyle by the far right. And with articles like this, it only strengthens the points. It's as if they're saying, "You can't be bi, you must be gay, so come join our team."

Not only does this hurt their cause by being hypocritical, it also hurts the "homosexuality is nature, not choice" argument. Things are never black and white in nature. If their are homosexuals and heterosexuals, there have to be bisexuals. If there are only "gay" and "straight" it almost has to be choice, because only humans could create such extremes with no middle ground. Nature never does that.

These people really need to quit hurting their own cause and strengthening the opposition.

[SLIMES]

Personnaly, I find nazi research into race more convincing than this garbage. (a reflection of the weaknesses of the latter). :tong:

What does he think causes homosexuality? Any answer to that opens the door to bisexuality...

[Doggie_Wood]

I try not to get worked up by stupid assholes like Woody - he is just another narrow minded pencil neck that don't know shit from shinolla. He will, however, receive an email :compuser: from me as well.

:doggie:

[deremarc]

Not only does this hurt their cause by being hypocritical, it also hurts the "homosexuality is nature, not choice" argument. Things are never black and white in nature. If their are homosexuals and heterosexuals, there have to be bisexuals. If there are only "gay" and "straight" it almost has to be choice, because only humans could create such extremes with no middle ground. Nature never does that.



That is the best point I've ever read that explains why bisexuality can, should, and does exist.

[SLIMES]

...I don't think having sex with women makes you bisexual anymore than a straight guy having sex with another man makes him gay.
Woody Miller needwood@mac.com.

You see Ian Huntley wasn't really a pedophile, he was just kidding himself! :bigrin:

[citrus]

Could be that the editors believe they can get a few more sales in their circulation dep't by stirring some controversies. Not such a bad idea. Just a poorly researched topic. Don't waste yer money on bad reporting or journalism.

[coyotedude]

This reminds me of another thread not too long back where someone was asking why some in the gay community refuse to accept bisexuality.

I believe I gave two hypotheses on it: (1) It reflects how some gays and lesbians worked their way out of their own closets, and (2) some people are just assholes, regardless of their sexual orientation (or lack thereof).

I believe this fellow falls under option no. 2. We really should send him a bumper sticker: ASSHOLES - 2 B 1, ASK 1

But please remember: NOT ALL GAY MEN (or lesbian women, for that matter) ARE ASSHOLES. Yes, someone needs to call this idiot on the carpet. But I'm not gonna slam the entire gay community just because one particular fool happens to be gay AND as bigoted as Jerry Falwell, in his own clueless way.

With all due respect to the right-wingers among us, this fellow appears to ascribe to the Rush Limbaugh school of commentary: Rush has never met an inconvenient fact he just couldn't ignore away....

Peace

[glantern954]

This is a free publication


Could be that the editors believe they can get a few more sales in their circulation dep't by stirring some controversies. Not such a bad idea. Just a poorly researched topic. Don't waste yer money on bad reporting or journalism.

[Lateralus]

just because you can get it up for a wide variety of species
doesn't make you bisexual. It makes you a dildo. For me, the
true "definition" of orientation isn't who you shag but who you're
in love with.

So according to this guy, just because you can get aroused by both sexes, or as he so eloquently (not to mention tastefully) put it "a wide variety of species" doesn't make you bi-SEXUAL. Help me out guys, because now i'm confused about my SEXUAL orientation. Not long ago I was in a loving relationship with a girl who gave me the most euphoric orgasm i've had to date (the things you ladies can do with those muscles ;) ). My last sex partner was a guy I met online. I went over to his house and we er...made alot of noise :bigrin: and afterwards we showered together and kissed (I almost put a hickey on his neck :cool: ). I enjoyed both accounts, not equally, but I enjoyed both nonetheless. Does the fact that I enjoyed sex with my ex g/f more make me straight, or am I one of those confused homosexuals that only pretends to like women for...whatever reason? Maybe i'm just pretending to like men. Eitherway, according to this guy I can't possibly like both.

P.S. That guy is an idiot.

[Long Duck Dong]

using the body as a sensor is proven as a invalid form of testing lol

its like a vegetarian.... the body may have urges to enjoy a nice steak, but the mind makes the choices of what we eat... the body is hard wired to eat to survive

and the bisexual body is the same..... our bodies may react and say * fuck time * but our minds can be saying * i want only that person fucking me in this way *... the MALE body is hard wired to reach orgasm and spread its seed.... and not just to reproduce

what that guy is saying, is that each human is controlled by their body and if thats the case.... then 99% of the world is faulty and hardwired wrong
science and biomedics have shown that kinseys original theories and opinions, were based on faulty data but many studies still use his original ideas and techiques to produce facts and findings that support their views... views that are biased and don't reflect the true facts

[Enoll]

I've read articles like this in published off the rack mags.
Usually saying things like "bi street is just a stop on the track to gay town".
I always read them but always end up angry by the end of them.

Sometimes it feels like being a Bi is like being jam being squished between two big fighting blocks. Sometimes it feels like both sides are pulling.
It's just not fair I tell you...why can't we just be accepted? :(

*goes through a short stage of hating the world* :tong:

[Boogie2u]

:eek: Its a laughable piece of drivel....and to be honest the sort of attitude i, and i guess others face on a daily basis...
but its nothing to get worked up about....give it the time of day....give it an inch and it takes a mile....i prefer to pat it on the head as patronisingly as possible, smile sweetly and laugh behind its back at the naivety and dumbfounded dimwittedness of it....

if you are reading this oh wise author remember you are being laughed at.
oh and a word of advice for know it alls like you....

'the wise man knows he is a fool and the fool knows he is a wiseman'

the minute you think your judgement is 100 % accurate is the day you should be sectioned under the mental health act...the world revolves without you and is far too diverse xxx

[glantern954]

Here is the link to online version of the article:

http://www.davidatlanta.com/2006/10-4/needwood/needwood/needwood.cfm

Their complete contact information is available on the contact us page, but the editor can be emailed directy at:

editor@davidatlanta.com

Again, the writer can be contacted at:

needwood@mac.com.

[Brian]

Here is the link to online version of the article:
http://www.davidatlanta.com/2006/10-4/needwood/needwood/needwood.cfmIronically, that is a very nice bit of art there accompanying the article - it conveys bisexuality beautifully and with style. It's ironic because, by Woody's reasoning, the publisher and artist wasted their time depicting something which doesn't really exist.

- Drew :paw:

[citystyleguy]

i thought of emailing a retort, but what the hell; i do not spend my live time arguing with idiot arguments, i do not spend by down time doing it either!

let idiots be idiots, and continue to maintain our integrity here at this site. better, yet let's send him our address here, and invite him to spread his gospel of blather to the truly enlightened and educated!

now there is a thought, a preacher actually out from amongst his flock!

[IanBorthwick]

Each time I tell the tales of woe caused by the ignorant in the gay community to my gay friend Mitch, his response is simply this:

"So he says you aren't real?"

"Yes." I reply. He reaches out and pokes me.

"Seem real to me. That was easy." and he laughs a bit.

Most of the community may be anti-bi, but not all.

[Enoll]

Most of the community may be anti-bi, but not all.

I read that eveywhere, but of the few gay people I know, they became better friends once they found out I'm bi.

[Tulsatomcat]

Hi all, first post. The real question is as always the same. Are we, as a species, so easily defined that the labels we have forced upon us must be true? Some have no ability to see gray in anything. Some see everything as grey.
Perhaps the real answers lie not in the labels or in the grey but in a more vivid and broader look at who we would be if we didn't insist that everything be packaged for consuption.

[Brian]

I have been thinking about Woody's column and something else I came across on Gay.com the other day that sent a shiver down my spine...

This column here and some of the comments on it were downright scary the way they ignored the two issues at heart of the Foley issue which is that a man was flirting with minors and flirting with those whom he had professional authority over - grossly unethical on both counts. The column:
http://www.gay.com/news/roundups/package.html?sernum=2524&coll=news_feature&navpath=channels/news

Some of the comments made hay over the fact that the minors "obviously enjoyed it", as if that was somehow relevant! It smacked of the same disgusting justification that date rapists and other sexual predators use.

I think the gay community at large suffers from being basically a closed community. Outsiders are minimally tolerated but clearly not welcome, and definitely not trusted. As a result the community loses proper perspective and balance over time. I'm not talking about all gay people, but I am talking about the gay community as a whole. There is a very strong gay culture - just pick up a gay newspaper or visit gay.com to see that that is true. That is a strength on one hand, but a drawback as well. I wonder if this strong, enclosed, culture is starting to hold back homosexual rights, by turning away bisexuals and others at the gate.

As you can tell, I am feeling just a bit pessimistic today. :(

- Drew :paw:

[JohnnyV]

Hi Drew,

THanks for the gay.com link. Seems to me that there are two issues surrounding the gay community's insular nature. The first is its inclination to fear or smear people who complicate their simplistic identity politics (i.e., "bisexuals are lying"). The second is its tendency to seal itself off from the common sense of the mainstream (i.e., "the whole world is wrong about the Foley emails; we're right").

I suppose I have more problems with the exclusionary part (the first problem). On the second issue, which matches the gay.com article you posted, I agree with the gay writer and disagree with the hetero majority. As a teacher who routinely deals with 18 and 19 year olds, I feel confident saying that teenagers are not children and know what they are doing when they flirt with older people. The 16-year-old pages in the case were not "children" and what Foley did was not pedophilia. Foley is creepy and a hypocrite, but he wasn't a pedophile, and if you read the exchanges, it does sound to me like the young men were enjoying their banter with the Congressman.

If Foley had slept with the pages under conditions that looked like a possible lack of consent, then I would not be so glib about the scandal. But Foley was simply flirting online and the uproar about what he did reflects American hysteria about sex, more than anything else. On that score I side with the gay community because the common sense of mainstream, hetero America is so puritanical.

J

[twosides]

For me, the true "definition" of orientation isn't who you shag but who you're
in love with.
You can fake shagging; you can't fake the racing pulse, the
obsessive thinking and the overwhelming desire to connect
emotionally, physically, romantically and spiritually with another
man.


These two parts of the original column seem to be the parts that stand out in support of our argument, in my mind.

If the definition of orientation IS who you are in love with, then why can't he (they) understand that we could just possibly be in love with more than one person at a time? And if there is more than one person, why couldn't it be one or more of each flavor?

And - RE: you can't fake the desire to "emotionally, physically, romantically and spiritually" connect with another man, I find that bunk. Because I have that desire to do so with males as well as females. The percentages of my "total amount of love" may lean towards the females. But, that does not mean my desire to do so with a guy is not present.

[Tynary]

I've bin away for a week in london with sister and too exhausted to read all messages. serious I'm gonna passout but did anyone e-mail the mother f***er?


It made me sad as wel as angry. it just......and the stuff peeeps metioned but in the end it just .....................hurts. I feel like I'm nobody. Its like I'm invisable.

[wanderingrichard]

oh damn, i have some major catching up reading to do....

[glantern954]

I emailed the writer and the editor. I provided the list of reasons why that study was flawed from the Gay an Lesbian Task Force. No reply from the writer. But the editor replied and seemed very nice. His response was that he did not share the writer's opinion either, but hoped the writer would address it.


I've bin away for a week in london with sister and too exhausted to read all messages. serious I'm gonna passout but did anyone e-mail the mother f***er?


It made me sad as wel as angry. it just......and the stuff peeeps metioned but in the end it just .....................hurts. I feel like I'm nobody. Its like I'm invisable.

[Avocado]

I really think someone should remind these people that when alot of gay people read and hear these comments, they cringe.

[DiamondDog]

I really think someone should remind these people that when alot of gay people read and hear these comments, they cringe.
Agreed.
Gay and lesbian people aren't "the enemy" even if a small minority feel this way about people like us.

[Tynary]

cool I hope the writer addresses what you said. um wat did u say exactly? I'm interested if u dnt mind. well do tell me if u get a response.
yeah I lv gays and lesbians heck I'd date lesbians but its the group of them that dnt believe in or approve of bisexulaity that hurt me. they are just causing a rift that shouldn't exist. if anything we should be on the same side. I dnt want to have to feel about myself because of people i thought would understand that is just so upsetting. I already feel that guys would be put off going out with me if they knew I was bisexual and now I feel that lesbians would be put of by my desire for men. It isn't fair to make people feel that way and that is y the article hurt so much. thank u for your effotts to contact them.

[the sacred night]

I have been confronted with this very issue in my university's Gay-Straight Alliance (well, look at the name). There are at least four bisexuals in the group, and yet I continually hear comments like "Bi now, gay later" and accusations that people who identify as gay and then as bi "go back in" the closet. I'm going to look for some particularly good articles from this site and send links out on our email group. I suggest this for anyone experiencing similar problems.

[JohnnyV]

I have been confronted with this very issue in my university's Gay-Straight Alliance (well, look at the name). There are at least four bisexuals in the group, and yet I continually hear comments like "Bi now, gay later" and accusations that people who identify as gay and then as bi "go back in" the closet. I'm going to look for some particularly good articles from this site and send links out on our email group. I suggest this for anyone experiencing similar problems.


Sacred Night,

You ought to remind the folks in your group that many people who join gay and lesbian associations in college end up marrying the opposite sex and living straight lives years after they graduate. It happens in both directions. Look at me for instance! And many people I know who marched with ACTUP in 1988 and swore we'd never be straight..... um, we all married women and had kids and ended up living boring suburban lives without even a hint of Cher or Gloria Gaynor.

J

[Avocado]

I really wonder if these people have some sort of mental illness

[DiamondDog]

I really wonder if these people have some sort of mental illness
or else WAY too much free time on their hands LOL

[glantern954]

This "article" has been picked up by the Washington Blade. Please take a moment to follow the link and either send a response to the editor or sound off about the article.

http://www.washblade.com/2006/10-20/eclipsemag/need/need.cfm

[Avocado]

This "article" has been picked up by the Washington Blade. Please take a moment to follow the link and either send a response to the editor or sound off about the article.

http://www.washblade.com/2006/10-20/eclipsemag/need/need.cfm

The Washington Blade basically printed the article rather than reporting it. Strange as that other article seemed to point the other way. I suppose bollocks sells papers...

[miamiuu]

This thing still continues to annoy me.I mean arent gay guys only attracted to gay men? So how hard is it to understand that some people can be attracted to the personality and charactersitcs of both sexes. Some may prefer one sex more over the other but that still means they are bi that they feel anything at all towards the opposite sex.

[Brian]

Wow. I am shocked and disgusted that the Washington Blade chose to reprint such biggoted crap disguised as a self-help column. I honestly viewed them in higher regard than that.

Maybe it's just the writer's flippant and insulting style ("Most people think we fall into three categories: gay, straight or lying.", "if you want your friend to stop talking about bisexuality, then buy a penis sensor and show him different kinds of porn."), or maybe it's some of the work-related problems I have been struggling with lately, but that column REALLY rubs me the wrong way for some reason. I would write a letter to the editor of the Washington Blade, but frankly I am of the frame of mind where I would just end up saying "Fuck You!". Not much point really.

I have a confession to make... when I first started bisexual.com and interacting much more with the "bisexual community" two years ago, I was more than bit surprised at how defensive many bisexuals were to biphobia from the gay community. I tended just to dismiss it and laugh it off as a rotten apple in every bushel type of thing. But others seemed to really take it to heart. I thought people were being oversensitive, I must confess.

But after two years of running this site and talking with other bisexuals and interacting with organized elements of the gay community I have had a gradual revelation... a significant portion of the traditional gay community are rabidly biphobic. Sexual ambiguity scares them as much or more than any straight conservative. They are infatuated with labels; "top", "bottom", "daddy", "bear". They believe in community not to interact with like-minded people, but to protect themselves from interacting with the non-like-minded. They literally believe "attraction" is equivalent to the blood pressure as measured at the penis.

Fuck 'em.

- Drew :paw:

[coyotedude]

Fuck 'em.


With all due respect, I'd rather not.... :eek: :eek: :eek:

Peace

[Avocado]

Wow. I am shocked and disgusted that the Washington Blade chose to reprint such biggoted crap disguised as a self-help column. I honestly viewed them in higher regard than that.

Maybe it's just the writer's flippant and insulting style ("Most people think we fall into three categories: gay, straight or lying.", "if you want your friend to stop talking about bisexuality, then buy a penis sensor and show him different kinds of porn."), or maybe it's some of the work-related problems I have been struggling with lately, but that column REALLY rubs me the wrong way for some reason. I would write a letter to the editor of the Washington Blade, but frankly I am of the frame of mind where I would just end up saying "Fuck You!". Not much point really.

I have a confession to make... when I first started bisexual.com and interacting much more with the "bisexual community" two years ago, I was more than bit surprised at how defensive many bisexuals were to biphobia from the gay community. I tended just to dismiss it and laugh it off as a rotten apple in every bushel type of thing. But others seemed to really take it to heart. I thought people were being oversensitive, I must confess.

But after two years of running this site and talking with other bisexuals and interacting with organized elements of the gay community I have had a gradual revelation... a significant portion of the traditional gay community are rabidly biphobic. Sexual ambiguity scares them as much or more than any straight conservative. They are infatuated with labels; "top", "bottom", "daddy", "bear". They believe in community not to interact with like-minded people, but to protect themselves from interacting with the non-like-minded. They literally believe "attraction" is equivalent to the blood pressure as measured at the penis.

Fuck 'em.

- Drew :paw:

No, it's nothing to do with anything at your work place put it that way...

[JohnnyV]

Drew,

I can 100% relate to what you are saying. From the beginning I was suspicious of the Washington Blade's attempts to "recruit" some of us for their initial article about bisexuality. It was bad news as soon as the writer asked that we not discuss our interviews on the message board until *after* the article came out -- i.e., only when it would be too late for us to coordinate efforts against misrepresentation.

Lately I've accepted the reality that every major political group is going to disappoint me. I'm Christian but find the Christian Right nauseating. I'm bi but find the gay movement fascistic and nihilistic. I'm progressive on most issues but consider the Democrats a party of lame stooges who sell out to the "center right," focus groups, Israel, Hollywood, and corrupt labor unions; and then they can't even get the balls to oppose a horrible war. I believe in small government and fiscal responsibility but I see the current Republicans as deluded, perverted, warmongering, big-government paranoid busybodies who want to recreate Mussolini's Italy on American soil, complete with bogus ballot counting and torture chamnbers.

Biphobia among gays is really a sign of the times for us in the US -- to quote that poem from the Napoleonic era, "The center cannot hold. Mere anarchy is set loose upon the world." The political climate has turned to every man for himself. I hope Canada's better! Maybe I have to move there!

J

[Brian]

Hi JV.

Interesting comments as always.

I do think the bi community still has a friend at the Washington Blade. I know he wants to write about bisexuality more often and from a perspective that dismantles some of the stereotypes out there about bisexuality. As dismayed as I am that the editors/publisher of the Blade thought the intentionally insulting "Need Wood" hate lit exercise was worthy for reprint in their publication, I am still very hopeful that we do have some allies out there in the gay press including at the Wash Blade. ... Or perhaps I am simply as naive as ever!

- Drew :paw:

[12voltman59]

This "article" has been picked up by the Washington Blade. Please take a moment to follow the link and either send a response to the editor or sound off about the article.

http://www.washblade.com/2006/10-20/eclipsemag/need/need.cfm


I just read this article--all I can say about it: what a crock of fucking shit!!!!!!!!

nuffsaid!!!!!

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[tommyswing]

This is just plain pure gay bigotry. Some cannot stand/accept that others have a different experience than they have. These are the same people that go on and on about the Christian right, and have no clue they are exactly the same. I am not new to this and have seen for myself intolerance and bigotry of many gays. I view this as just part of the human condition that affects all of us. For myself I don’t really care I know my own experience and know who I am. I do not believe the gay and bisexual communities have much commonality, we just need to continue to confront and educate