Oprah's looking for married Bi women

[Herbwoman39]

https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/BeOnTheShow.jhtml?action=respond&plugId=224800001

Check out the link. The Oprah Show is looking for married Bi women who are secretly seeing another woman. I pointed out in my reply that this topic portrayed this way simply reinforces a stereotype. Personally I think the more of us who write in and tell our own stories, the more likely they are to widen the scope of the topic.

[Avocado]

Exactly they're not asking for married bi monogamous women or married bi women who are being honest about what they're doing are they? Cunts.

[Seeker72]

Exactly they're not asking for married bi monogamous women or married bi women who are being honest about what they're doing are they? Cunts.

Honesty doesn't sell sadly.

Oprah is nothing more than Jerry Springer, her guests just have better teeth.

[DiamondDog]

the best was when Oprah had on that tool James Frey the "author" or 1,000,000 little pieces.

I remember in one show she had on swingers and the wife was bisexual, the husband was het, and they said that they got into swinging because she needed to be with a woman. :rolleyes:

[allbimyself]

Honesty doesn't sell sadly.

Oprah is nothing more than Jerry Springer, her guests just have better teeth.
ROFLMFAO! Too true, especially since Tom "Licensed Phsychiatrist" Cruise jumped up and down on the furniture, taking away that difference.

[Herbwoman39]

Call me the Eternal Optimist, but *I* look at this as a possible way to educate people about sexual fluidity. Yeah, they're acting like a bunch of ignorant yahoos by posing the inquiry that way but ignorance can be educated.

[LouiseBrookslover]

I've been saying that for years. Oprah is garbage that presents itself as something higher, Springer is at least what he is and makes no apologies. I have more respect for Springer.

How I wish that more people would realize that shows like "Oprah" and "The View" are nothing more than cultural counterparts to WWF Wrestling and MonsterTruck Rallies and Springer. Let me tell you, the fact that the average viewer of Oprah has a vagina rather than a penis really does quite little to make it an intelligent program.

[Chaia]

https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/BeOnTheShow.jhtml?action=respond&plugId=224800001

Check out the link. The Oprah Show is looking for married Bi women who are secretly seeing another woman. I pointed out in my reply that this topic portrayed this way simply reinforces a stereotype. Personally I think the more of us who write in and tell our own stories, the more likely they are to widen the scope of the topic.

I very much agree, Herbwoman, that the more of us who write in and tell our own stories, the better. However, I am not really "out" and don't plan to be, so I don't want to put down my information in the required fields. Any suggestions for how to go about doing this somewhat annonymously?

[BiBiologist]

That's the problem I see with this as well as many other topics on these shows. The real, "normal" people are not represented because they have some dignity and decorum, and don't want to have their lives exposed on national TV. There must be better ways to get our stories across and educate people in the mainstream. For instance, PBS shows like the GLBT magazine "In the Life" (which unfortunately is broadcast at late hours, as if it is more objectionable than the afternoon soaps and talk shows). Yes, this would be a great opportunity to actually educate a section of the public, but unfortunately, like Chaia and myself, the regular bi folks won't want to fill in the required fields on the form, let alone have our faces on TV. They will get the usual attention seekers, and even if someone who normally wouldn't decides to stand up and face the glare, they will be immediately thought of as an attention seeker and risk ruining themselves and their families. I'm all for telling our stories if we can find a way to do it with greater dignity. As one thought, what if there were a large group of us from this website who could possibly make some sort of a statement, maybe through one spokesperson who is already out? This might carry more weight than having just a few tell individual stories.

[Brian]

Oprah has a thing about sex. She is very liberal or considers hereself to be so, but she is actually quite conservative when it comes to sex. She has been quoted as saying that the viewing of pornography or erotica by men is equivalent to cheating, for example.

Hopefully she will come around some day. Maybe she will fall in love with a bisexual woman and the floodgates of sexual liberation will open. :cool:

- Drew :paw:

[anne27]

.... I'm all for telling our stories if we can find a way to do it with greater dignity. As one thought, what if there were a large group of us from this website who could possibly make some sort of a statement, maybe through one spokesperson who is already out? This might carry more weight than having just a few tell individual stories.


I would be all for this idea. Count me in on it. I'll offer any help I can give, but national tv exposure, I don't need.

[Herbwoman39]

I'm all for telling our stories if we can find a way to do it with greater dignity. As one thought, what if there were a large group of us from this website who could possibly make some sort of a statement, maybe through one spokesperson who is already out? This might carry more weight than having just a few tell individual stories.

For a group statement there needs to be a wide audience. How can we reach a larger audience when a good portion of our group is either afraid to come out or situations in their life prevent them from doing so?

People respond to personal stories. It's difficult to be personal with someone who is maintaining anonyminity. Anonyminity is tantamount to keep a secret and is usually percieved as having something to hide. Please understand it is in NO way my intention to be critical of those to wish to remain anonymous. Everyone has their own valid reasons to come out or not to come out.

I also wanted to add that not all people who go on talk shows are attention seekers. Many people watch Oprah and are swayed by what she says. If one bisexual person can convince her (and even more importantly, her audience) that we are NOT how we are portrayed, an appearance on TV might begin to make some changes.

My only real concern about the possibility of appearing on her show is the fact that I haven't told my parents yet. That and the reaction I'll get when/if religeon becomes a topic of discussion.

My point is merely that it will take more than one person to show people that we are NOT the stereotype portrayed in movies and that we are just folks like them.

[RainbowBright]

i am out to all i know.. but a lot of you are right... i could never go onto national tv and tell my story... a mask on my face.. my voice altered.. then no problem.. i am more than me... i am my family, friends, girlfriend's family and friends. Who ever was to do this needs to think about a lot of other people.

I compeletly agree that the world needs to be educated. I am a parent and have already had a few parents at my children's school make comments to the fact that they dont want their children hanging with mine...too much of a chance that they will "see something" imorral... what? like im gonna be with my spouce and girlfriend wile there are kids around?... not even remotly possible.

the world needs to learn!! :(

[BiBiologist]

For a group statement there needs to be a wide audience. How can we reach a larger audience when a good portion of our group is either afraid to come out or situations in their life prevent them from doing so?

My idea for reaching a larger audience is if we collect all our own stories here, somehow, maybe with a specific thread that gives the same number of words as the Oprah form. That might be one way we could collect them all and keep anonymity, then find a way to send them in, maybe by someone filling out the Oprah form and putting in the link to the Bisexual.com forum thread. Then we wouldn't have to individually fill out the form.


People respond to personal stories. It's difficult to be personal with someone who is maintaining anonyminity. Anonyminity is tantamount to keep a secret and is usually percieved as having something to hide. Please understand it is in NO way my intention to be critical of those to wish to remain anonymous. Everyone has their own valid reasons to come out or not to come out.

I also wanted to add that not all people who go on talk shows are attention seekers. Many people watch Oprah and are swayed by what she says. If one bisexual person can convince her (and even more importantly, her audience) that we are NOT how we are portrayed, an appearance on TV might begin to make some changes.
Yes, I understand and agree, and certainly anyone who wishes to can fill out Oprah's form individually. But I think they might take notice of lots of us putting our stories together, with one spokesperson willing to not be anonymous who can represent many voices. Obviously, they won't put a thousand of us on the show, but we can make a point that there are bi's from all walks of life with all kinds of approaches (including a high percentage monogamous) to marriage and relationships.


My point is merely that it will take more than one person to show people that we are NOT the stereotype portrayed in movies and that we are just folks like them.

Yes, and that's exactly what I hope this approach would bring about. It might take a few of us sending PMs to the women in our regions to alert them to the thread, so they could decide whether to post here anonymously, or on the Oprah form.
Thanks,
sam

[Mrs.F]

I compeletly agree that the world needs to be educated. I am a parent and have already had a few parents at my children's school make comments to the fact that they dont want their children hanging with mine...too much of a chance that they will "see something" imorral... what? like im gonna be with my spouce and girlfriend wile there are kids around?... not even remotly possible.

the world needs to learn!! :(


That is just plain ignorance!! Why in the world would you be playing around doing anything sexual with kids around no matter what your sexual preference!! Some people are just so small minded and can only point out the negative and what THEY feel is wrong. I feel sorry for those people, who apparently can't see outside the bubble they live in........ :soapbox: :offtopic: Sorry for the rant, but that just really pisses me off!

Maybe everyone from this site....including me, who's straight, should go on the Oprah show and tell how being bisexual and living with a bisexual is OK. There is nothing wrong with it and that you can be monogomous and live in a happy, loving relationship. :bigrin:

[deletetacount123]

So my mom LOVES Oprah.....
She ALWAYS watches the show......
Oprah wants bisexual women on the show.....
Mom doesn't believe in bisexual.....

Hmmm should be interesting......

Tasha

[BiBiologist]

Maybe everyone from this site....including me, who's straight, should go on the Oprah show and tell how being bisexual and living with a bisexual is OK. There is nothing wrong with it and that you can be monogomous and live in a happy, loving relationship. :bigrin:

That's the spirit!

I also started wondering more about this topic, and having read, "Living Two Lives: Married to a Man and In Love with a Woman" by Joanne Fleisher, I'm wondering how prevalent this is. So I'm starting another thread to ask.

[Rhuth]

This is an AIM conversation I had with my husband. I am Ohbedah, and he is tandemrip. I copied and pasted it into the form offered in an effort to make my voice heard on the off chance I can make a difference in the world. As my husband convinces me in the conversation, though, I will not go on the show.

Ohbedah: https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/BeOnTheShow.jhtml?action=respond&plugId=224800001

tandemrip: ug. no.

Ohbedah: Now... If I fill that out, and get on the show, I would become officially out to your mother.

tandemrip: Bad idea

tandemrip: And I will be on there too

Ohbedah: I am a bit offended that they would phrase it that way. Bisexual doesn't mean being secretly unfaithful.

tandemrip: But that is what they will try to depict you as

tandemrip: I would not do it

tandemrip: "Or were you happily married until you unexpectedly fell in love with a woman?"

tandemrip: trapped in marriage?

tandemrip: Ug. It's a setup

tandemrip: They'll probably have fundies

tandemrip: "Why are you staying in your marriage"

tandemrip: ug

tandemrip: Are you really considering doing this?

Ohbedah: Tempted. But I'll skip.

Ohbedah: Lol What a way to come out to your mother though.

tandemrip: Thank you

tandemrip: Oprah Winfrey is toxic

tandemrip: Possible scenario:

tandemrip: "Here we have Rhuth, aged 32. Mother of 2 and married for 12 years. Her husband recently supported her life-changing experience of losing 60 pounds. And what does she do? She has sex with women!"

tandemrip: *crowd makes ape noises...some yell "Show us yer tits!"*

Ohbedah: Lol

Ohbedah: But, I had sex with a woman before I lost the weight.

tandemrip: Ok, very Springerish.

tandemrip: But, you're hot

tandemrip: You're young

tandemrip: You're bi

tandemrip: Yeah, you'd get on the show

Ohbedah: Lol I could always back out.

tandemrip: no

tandemrip: just don't do it

tandemrip: coming out to people can be a good thing

tandemrip: Coming out in a bad way could be disastrous

tandemrip: You don't have content control

tandemrip: You've got to wonder. With the editing jobs, would they allow a positive portrayal of polyamory or bisexuality?

tandemrip: Especially with polygamy being in the news

Ohbedah: Good point.

Ohbedah: Okay. I won't.

tandemrip: It would be different if they were exploring bisexuality as a positive thing. But, no. No mention of whether or not your husband is cool with it

tandemrip: And so they would bring me on and make me look like either Creepy Husband or cuckold

tandemrip: am I allowed to get off the soap box yet? I'm afraid of heights

[Herbwoman39]

<sigh> Your hubby made some excellent points. He's quite right about how they'll probably frame it.

Ya know what REALLY sucks? I believe in the goodness of people. I really do. But the idea that Oprah's people would intentionally set out to make us look bad is unconscionable.

To quote Rodney King, "Why can't we all just get along?"