View Full Version : If you burn me at the stake, let me smoke first
BobbyGlendinning
Sep 27, 2010, 12:57 AM
The thought of my liberal Islamophile friend tying me to a stake and dousing me with kerosene because I don't like condoms made my day. Visions of sugar plums danced in my head.
But seriously, I have this to share tonight:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/36x7ev4
It's a shorter article addressing the problem that queers face nowadays, trapped between two political parties -- one that seems to want them but keeps letting them down, and the other that keeps making breakthroughs for them, but doesn't seem to like them very much.
If you have any thoughts, feel free to leave a comment -- you can comment anonymously at that site. My bloggers and I try to engage every comment we receive.
Ciao.
PS. I'll try tantra with latex on.
Long Duck Dong
Sep 27, 2010, 1:06 AM
does ya smoke have a condom on it tho :tong::tong::tong:
btw ya link requires people to redirect to the article, but its safe to do so..... even without condoms lol
fredtyg
Sep 27, 2010, 8:21 AM
It's a shorter article addressing the problem that queers face nowadays, trapped between two political parties --\
There's more than two political parties to chose from. I switched to the Libertarian Party (http://www.lp.org) back in '92 after being a Republican nearly all my life and haven't looked back.
It certainly gives you an outsider's perspective as you see the two main parties pointing fingers at each other for doing pretty much the exact same thing.
coyotedude
Sep 27, 2010, 1:57 PM
Now, I am a liberal Islamophile (and proud of it, I might add), and I don't see any need to light up the kerosene - even if I don't entirely agree with you.
I just hope you afford me the same courtesy...
12voltman59
Sep 27, 2010, 3:57 PM
There's more than two political parties to chose from. I switched to the Libertarian Party (http://www.lp.org) back in '92 after being a Republican nearly all my life and haven't looked back.
It certainly gives you an outsider's perspective as you see the two main parties pointing fingers at each other for doing pretty much the exact same thing.
I almost could be a libertarian--but I'd be one more on the "liberal" side--in a classical sense and not all the BS that "conservatives" like to say that liberals are supposed to be--and also the way the liberalism has worked out in recent years which has strayed from the more traditional way of being "liberal."
The one thing I find with many of those who claim to be libertarian---they may "hate" government restrictions when it comes to things like gun control, environmental rules, civil rights for minorties, TAXES and such that "conservatives" don't much care for the government getting involved with---but they have no problem in relying upon using the big hand of government to "wipe out" the things they don't like such as people smoking pot, looking at porn, being "gay" and restricting women's reproductive rights (often tending to be rabidly anti-abortion)---things of this nature.
If libertarians were more consistent in being against government stepping out of the way on such things---perhaps I would be more favorable to libertarianism--but then again--just like liberalism/progressivism/being a member of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY and conservativism/being a member of the Republican Party have all gone off the rails---I guess I cannot ding libertarianism too much----the thing is--today--I don't feel that I belong in any sort of political party and don't much fit any sort of "ISM" anymore.
I know that I want to fulfill my "duty" as a citizen to continue to vote---but I don't care much for any of those who have run things or the real nutjobs out there these days that want to get their hands on "the power."
The current situation surely has put me in a quandry.
TaylorMade
Sep 28, 2010, 2:33 AM
There's more than two political parties to chose from. I switched to the Libertarian Party (http://www.lp.org) back in '92 after being a Republican nearly all my life and haven't looked back.
It certainly gives you an outsider's perspective as you see the two main parties pointing fingers at each other for doing pretty much the exact same thing.
I'm finding many gay people are switching to the Libertarian party... and after the games Harry Reid played by smacking the DREAM act onto the DADT repeal, I can't vote for a dem again.
One party wants to restrict you in the bedroom, the other wants to restrict you everywhere else.
*Taylor*
fredtyg
Sep 28, 2010, 8:27 AM
but they have no problem in relying upon using the big hand of government to "wipe out" the things they don't like such as people smoking pot, looking at porn, being "gay" and restricting women's reproductive rights (often tending to be rabidly anti-abortion)---things of this nature.
That hasn't been my experience at all. Libertarians generally believe in individual choice on all issues, so long as you don't harm another. There are some issues that they may differ on, though.
I've known a few that are opposed to same- sex marriage. Abortion and immigration being two other issues that come to mind. While I feel safe in saying most serious libertarians are "pro- choice", there is a Libertarians For Life group.
While the Libertarian Party pretty much calls for open borders, I'm one who isn't an open borders libertarian. I'm not an immigrant basher, but I do think we should have effective border controls.
I don't know of any libertarians that are opposed to individual choice when it comes to smoking pot, tobacco, or anything else. Same goes for pornography and people's personal sexual behavior.
There might be some conservatives that claim to be libertarians that believe in restricting such things, but that's only a claim.
fredtyg
Sep 28, 2010, 10:53 AM
I'm finding many gay people are switching to the Libertarian party... and after the games Harry Reid played by smacking the DREAM act onto the DADT repeal, I can't vote for a dem again.
*Taylor*
I'm glad to hear that, but also surprised. I've always felt if anyone should have a live and let live philosophy it would be the lgbt community. Sadly, the vast majority of lgbt folks I'm familiar with are hard left, big government liberal types. Nearly all seem to be card carrying members of the Democratic Party.
From some of the political commentary that's been made on this site, I suspect many of the bi folks here are the same way.
I'd like to hope that's changing as I really want to get much more deeply involved with my local homosexual community but their politics tend to scare me off.